Mog Wardrobe 3&4 feedback.

[Castanica]

Square as a company would never demeen themselves by communicating anything along the lines of the things mentioned, ever.

How long have any of you been around to even suggest anything like this?

The first you would know something is wrong is the day they post a message it's closing down the game. You don't get a warning.

I didn't know anything about this game, it took me one minute to find out that:
- it's a F2P.
- it has a cash shop.
- it has an optional sub.

And as you said, it's closing. Now put the pieces together and answer your own question. I don't even know what this has to do with FFXI's subscription model.

Everquest (the game ffxi is based on) is all of those things, is older than both planetside and ffxi and is still running. Monetisation system is irrelevant, what matter is profits and the company behind the game.

[Cesil]

I would like this as well.



I agree, but not on things actually related to gameplay and inventory is central to this game. As I've said before, gold crab or ufo mount for sale? No problem, that's awesome! I probably won't buy it (okay, I might buy a ufo mount...) but I won't be disappointed at their introduction. Inventory or--completely hypothetically speaking--double CP potions, better trusts, purchasable weapons, and I would consider that a disgrace.

Yeah, when it becomes pay to win..then we absolutely have a problem. >.<

[Diavolo]

End of the day, I want this game to be around for a long time and get a bigger budget.

The former has already happened and the latter won't, not in its current form.

If they had said they are increasing subs by $4 for everyone, that would of enraged me and everyone across the board. If they offer additional services for $4, I'm totally fine with that.

How Every Awful Video Game Thing Was Born

The difference between people for and against is that the people who are ok with it are realists and have probably played other games, the people against it are living in Disney world and probably have never played anything other than ffxi. They think a game can run just fine with less money and where all that matters is their measly $3 a week when devs make 6 figures a year.

You think the skeleton crew members working on FFXI are all making six figures? Square Enix pays its employees, on average, more than any other Japanese game development studio by a large margin, but according to Gamasutra, Japanese development salaries averaged about $58,000/year about five years ago.

[OmnysValefor]

I've actually played several MMOs. When I played WoW, it had a cash shop, though all it had in it was mounts and maybe non-combat pets ("companions").

Now, the only game-altering thing I see there is you can buy your way to 100, but being PL'd (by today's standards) is hardly any different, just takes a little bit longer. Neither teaches you anything about the job you're trying to cap so no big deal.

I've played RIFT, TSW, TERA, AION, FFXI, WoW, 14 1.x and 2.0, and a few others. I've played AAA and Indies, games with small dev teams that did a lot and games with large dev teams that did little. Subscription, cash-shop, both, and sometimes the transition in-between.

People just assume that people who disagree with them are just clueless, and it's not the case.

[Cesil]

I've actually played several MMOs. When I played WoW, it had a cash shop, though all it had in it was mounts and maybe non-combat pets ("companions").

Now, the only game-altering thing I see there is you can buy your way to 100, but being PL'd (by today's standards) is hardly any different, just takes a little bit longer. Neither teaches you anything about the job you're trying to cap so no big deal.

I've played RIFT, TSW, TERA, AION, FFXI, WoW, 14 1.x and 2.0, and a few others. I've played AAA and Indies, games with small dev teams that did a lot and games with large dev teams that did little. Subscription, cash-shop, both, and sometimes the transition in-between.

People just assume that people who disagree with them are just clueless, and it's not the case.

I have played all those as well. FFXI, Lineage II and 1.x being my favorite. No cash shops, no mounts/glamour/fluff content from those too.

Tera was alright, the cash shop never really had any p2w, mostly glamour and mounts, however it just got boring sadly..lacking in end game for me. FFXIV 2.0/3.0 has way too much glamour/fluff content and not enough battle content, still has 0 content for a FC to do 3 years later, alliances still are non existent and do not work properly...that is just a small tidbit of the issues that game has.

Aion, I only played that when it had a sub...again it was fine, but at the end game it got boring..went back to XI lol.

So yeah in the end..my opinion is that when I sub to a game, I am paying a monthly fee for stuff to be put in via quests/missions etc and not just swipe my card and instantly get something. If they take out the effort from earning things in game..then I have little to no reason to play.

[Castanica]

http://www.geek.com/games/the-averag...73000-1500147/

[Diavolo]

http://www.geek.com/games/the-averag...73000-1500147/

I guess that answered my previous question - you do believe they get paid that much.

[Vanfrano]

http://www.geek.com/games/the-averag...73000-1500147/

Here, only by checking the sources of your link, http://nensyu-labo.com/kigyou_square_enix.htm, this is based on 21 employees' salary (18 at the time of the article).
As a comparison, for Sony, http://nensyu-labo.com/kigyou_sony.htm, it is based on 12286 employees' salary.

Can't wait for your next link

[Castanica]

Here, only by checking the sources of your link, http://nensyu-labo.com/kigyou_square_enix.htm, this is based on 21 employees' salary (18 at the time of the article).
As a comparison, for Sony, http://nensyu-labo.com/kigyou_sony.htm, it is based on 12286 employees' salary.

Can't wait for your next link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbYOsE7JyXs

[BurnNotice]

I personally throw away gear that is no longer useful. Unless "investing" in this wardobe is going to offer opportunity to create new content like add-ons and quests to better our stay here, I am all for it. Otherwise, this is a bad idea with great consequences.