Quote Originally Posted by bazookatooth View Post
I think a reasonable argument would have been "Hey look guys, they're gonna add a million more JP categories / Gifts, so this really isn't a terrible grand prize. It's just a stepping stone on a long journey to something (hopefully) better. SO don't act like it's the end of the world". All that other nonsense about how other jobs have it worse (why would they care?...), or how it allows you to use a different piece of gear (Which does nothing for you in precast anyways) is not really relevant to the conversation. Maybe you care about it, but people grinding 1200 JP on summoner don't. People want a reward at the end of the grind and this is not a good reward.
Or I could you know, point out how ridiculously over powered the gift they are asking for is. What they are asking for is the gifts to not count to the caps of 15 for bloodpact reduction I&II. If that were the case then bloodpact could be reduced 30 from gear, then an additional 10 from the gifts for a blood pact recast time of 20. Sure as of right now there is only enough gear for -14 bloodpact II, but 21 second bloodpacts is still a 42% increase in frequency of bloodpacts from the last update.

I'm sure some people might see smn being able to eventually get down to 20 second bloodpacts is putting them on par with bst's 10 second readys, but don't forget SE is in the process of finding ways to nerf bst.

As for it being worth the grind, have you seen smn's job point categories? Those are worth the grind on their own.