Dev question regarding August 5th Job Point Gift List - 1200 point gift

[Ghost2k4]

I wouldn't be too happy with that Why are the gifts BP Delay II? They aren't listed as BP Delay II.

So happy probably wasn't the right word choice. I would just like to know an answer one way or another more than anything. The constant state of not knows is the worst part. If the gifts are BP Delay II then they really should be reworded as such too. Hopefully a dev will comment before September when the next version update is supposed to drop. =)

[Ulth]

BST ready timer is what 10 seconds now?

The response to the -5 ready shield leads me to believe that SE doesn't want bst to have a 10 second ready timer. They just didn't think they needed to cap it because they didn't think anyone would use charmer's merlin still, and underestimated its value. Once they saw how powerful 10 second timers were, it was too late and it was such a crucial part of popular strategies now that capping it would cause a riot. So instead they are trying to get bst to give up the 10 second timer by other means. And like how they don't want ready timers under 15 second, half of the original timer, they don't want bloodpacts under 30, half of the original timer.

[bazookatooth]

The response to the -5 ready shield leads me to believe that SE doesn't want bst to have a 10 second ready timer. They just didn't think they needed to cap it because they didn't think anyone would use charmer's merlin still, and underestimated its value. Once they saw how powerful 10 second timers were, it was too late and it was such a crucial part of popular strategies now that capping it would cause a riot. So instead they are trying to get bst to give up the 10 second timer by other means. And like how they don't want ready timers under 15 second, half of the original timer, they don't want bloodpacts under 30, half of the original timer.

I think the reason they won't give the shield is because some clever people would use it to get ready recast down to 5 seconds.

[Helias]

I just hit 1200 job points and realized I'm still @30 seconds on bloodpact timer. Is there any new info on this? It seems the first tier job gift surpasses the limit, why doesn't this one?

[Zeargi]

That a whole lot of JPs to spend if it doesn't actually move the BP timer lower that 30s. I'm hoping that there will be an answer soon. I'd love to get 25s, it'd help so much with things.

[AtrixWolfe]

Please upvote the topic guys, it won't guarantee replies from the mods but it definitely helps. I have to admit this is really heartbreaking if smn gets 1200 JP and it basically does nothing for the job.

[Ulth]

Inventory +2? I wouldn't say it does nothing. Thief's 100 and 1200 JP gifts do nothing. Thief's and Dancer's 550 gift actually hurts tp gain by giving them too much dual wield. Sure it's no 80k magic burst death, or +1 to all traits, but it could still be worst.

[AtrixWolfe]

Inventory +2? I wouldn't say it does nothing. Thief's 100 and 1200 JP gifts do nothing. Thief's and Dancer's 550 gift actually hurts tp gain by giving them too much dual wield. Sure it's no 80k magic burst death, or +1 to all traits, but it could still be worst.

Ah yes, what would my day be without some relative privation. Sorry but that isn't a valid argument, and jobs with detrimental or non useful 1200 gifts should have justification for doing so. On top of that it was reportedly working before the aug 11th patch.

[Ulth]

Saying something isn't a valid argument, isn't a valid argument, because you didn't give any reason why it isn't valid. Also I'm guessing it's not a bug. Don't you find it a little odd that bloodpact delay II just happened to be capped at 15 like blood pact delay? It's almost like when they made it possible to go over 15 they forgot to write in a cap. If it was a ninja fix it's a pretty shady thing to not put it in the patch notes, but my money is on the cap being intentional.

[Urat]

Saying something isn't a valid argument, isn't a valid argument, because you didn't give any reason why it isn't valid. Also I'm guessing it's not a bug. Don't you find it a little odd that bloodpact delay II just happened to be capped at 15 like blood pact delay? It's almost like when they made it possible to go over 15 they forgot to write in a cap. If it was a ninja fix it's a pretty shady thing to not put it in the patch notes, but my money is on the cap being intentional.

Other jobs having bad 1200 JP gifts doesn't justify our literally 0 use JP gift.

It means a lot 1200 JP gifts need fixing.