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    Player Bebekeke's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerius View Post
    It only helped with Wyvern survivability a little bit which really wasn't an issue in the first place. :/
    I think you maybe missed the most recent DRG buff... JA haste, att and def boost when the wyvern levels up (with 5/5 empathy this caps after just 1 spirit link). It allows DRG to sub WAR while still capping haste, and makes it extremely powerful during the DoT phase... now, if only all the polearm WS didn't suck....
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    Player Xerius's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bebekeke View Post
    I think you maybe missed the most recent DRG buff... JA haste, att and def boost when the wyvern levels up (with 5/5 empathy this caps after just 1 spirit link). It allows DRG to sub WAR while still capping haste, and makes it extremely powerful during the DoT phase... now, if only all the polearm WS didn't suck....
    For the wyvern or the Dragoon because from my understanding it was the wyvern that received the benefits. I haven't been able to play much lately so I haven't really tested it myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerius View Post
    For the wyvern or the Dragoon because from my understanding it was the wyvern that received the benefits. I haven't been able to play much lately so I haven't really tested it myself.
    No, it's 10% JA haste, 20% att, and 20% def for the Dragoon. No testing needed, the description of the change is quite clear.
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    Player Xerius's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malithar View Post
    No, it's 10% JA haste, 20% att, and 20% def for the Dragoon. No testing needed, the description of the change is quite clear.
    Well, regardless I still don't see people shouting for RNG, SAM, MNK or DRG. So, the point still stands.
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    Player Malithar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerius View Post
    Well, regardless I still don't see people shouting for RNG, SAM, MNK or DRG. So, the point still stands.
    Nor will you ever. You people don't seem to understand, PUGs won't suddenly start shouting for something unless the content requires it, gimmicks and such, or the job is buffed to the point that it's the absolute best at what it does. Case in point, Geo is amazingly good in Incursion, yet most pugs that I've seen (at least the ones that shout that don't know better) still don't shout for Geo.

    The buff Drg just got was quite potent, it really is up there with the other heavy DDs, Mnk, Drk, and War. But it's not Sam, nor are the other DD jobs; you won't see it shouted for, just like they aren't. Yes, Mnk is shouted for still, good DPS with a few gimmick capable JAs with the highest HP, but that's quickly lost it's use. But Drg is more than capable of DDing very well now. What more would you like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malithar View Post
    Nor will you ever. You people don't seem to understand, PUGs won't suddenly start shouting for something unless the content requires it, gimmicks and such, or the job is buffed to the point that it's the absolute best at what it does. Case in point, Geo is amazingly good in Incursion, yet most pugs that I've seen (at least the ones that shout that don't know better) still don't shout for Geo.

    The buff Drg just got was quite potent, it really is up there with the other heavy DDs, Mnk, Drk, and War. But it's not Sam, nor are the other DD jobs; you won't see it shouted for, just like they aren't. Yes, Mnk is shouted for still, good DPS with a few gimmick capable JAs with the highest HP, but that's quickly lost it's use. But Drg is more than capable of DDing very well now. What more would you like?
    Ppl really need to stop complain about X job suck based on what's in /shout IMO. That's one the main reason why jobs are unbalanced.

    SAM was already a stronger DD than MNK before SC/fudo buff, but everyone and their mother still /shout for a MNK due to higher HP, so ppl complained about other DD are too weak compare with MNK.

    Now that's see what SE did.....they buffed SAM to "catch up with MNK" and broke the balance.

    You guys can keep complaining about GEO not in /shout so SE can buff it, it will only result a worse job balance.....GEO will get even more buff when it's already one of the most OP job in game.


    tl;dr,

    What job is good and what's not isn't based on what job ppl /shout for, but the job's actual strength. Stop using "But this job is never in /shout pt" as an argument in a job balance discussion.
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