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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomiko View Post
    Would you prefer the Merriam-Webster version instead:

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cheat

    First definition listed:

    "to break a rule or law usually to gain an advantage at something"
    And thank you for circling back to my original point of if there is no advantage it's not really cheating. Otherwise you could call swearing in South Carolina "cheating"

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomiko View Post
    Actually, it does.

    http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...1&tag=ff11user

    2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition, you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay.

    Is Windower authorized software? No.
    I really don't understand why you proceeded to quote me where I quoted a section of the rules and then try to prove me wrong by quoting the same exact section just bolding a part of it. But here I shall do the same.

    2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software designed to modify the Game and gameplay.

    Does vanilla windower no add ons modify the game and game play? Nope. Now before SE added window mode yeah it definitely was but now it's the same thing. Heck some of the early addons have now been added now
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    Last edited by dasva; 09-13-2014 at 12:07 PM.

  2. #172
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    Vanilla windower is modifying the game it's not the same thing, so stop trying to whiteknight wdw. It's like you are trying to convice yourself that you don't cheat lol.
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    lol vanilla. Didn't know the WoW kiddies made it to 11 ><
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlumbGame View Post
    lol vanilla. Didn't know the WoW kiddies made it to 11 ><
    Vanilla, in this case, is a euphemism for plain, default, standard. It's been used that way since long before WoW was a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlumbGame View Post
    lol vanilla. Didn't know the WoW kiddies made it to 11 ><
    There also have been WoW kiddies playing XI on and off and detesting the game cause it's sooo hard far back to at least pre-abyssea.
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    To be fair most old FF players that hated wow are now playing FFXIV, which is as close a wow clone as you can possibly get.


    Those people were retards, they hated wow without ever trying it and are now playing a FF themed wow clone and saying it's next gen and awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixela View Post
    To be fair most old FF players that hated wow are now playing FFXIV, which is as close a wow clone as you can possibly get.


    Those people were retards, they hated wow without ever trying it and are now playing a FF themed wow clone and saying it's next gen and awesome.

    They probably hated wow because of art style lol.
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    I hated WoW for many reasons. Art style, the poor execution of quests (I mean seriously, it's just go to this NPC, talk for a little bit, get the quest flagged, go do random stuff, come get XP!). All sorts of things. The game has no soul. Just like FFXIV...

    I like FFXIV, but FFXI is better.
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    My vanilla comment was mostly directed towards WoW kids using such a stupid statement to refer to classic or original etc. Take the same amount of time to basically say anything else, while actually being correct, rather than calling something a flavor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlumbGame View Post
    My vanilla comment was mostly directed towards WoW kids using such a stupid statement to refer to classic or original etc. Take the same amount of time to basically say anything else, while actually being correct, rather than calling something a flavor.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanilla_software
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