Request. Please allow trust in abbysea

[Pixela]

This argument is based on the fact that I have plenty of friends/lsmate quit right after they got their mythic/relic nowadays.

In 75 era I rarely see an endgame player quit/come and go as much. They always pop on weekly event every week.

I used to play every single day for 5+ hr when I had a long term goal too, now I just play for 2 weekends after update to cap gear, quit and play other games, then come back after 1~2 more update too. IMO it's wasting my $12 a month if I log on and get nothing to do. The dev is effectively turning FFXI into FFXIV, where you pay a monthly fee but only get to play for a few days due to the lack of longevity.

If you don't agree with the opinion, tell me why, just don't go "lol if you think ppl gonna quit after they get long term goal done". Just because you don't quit without long term goal, doesn't mean that applies to other people.

If you can't tell, the whole design ideal is to make XIV and XI casual. Mainly so that people will play both games, or so they hope.

They know that many of the people that play XIV once played XI, if they make both games just good enough but not too much of a time sink they hope to get twice the subscription fees out of you.

[Afania]

Relics aren't long-term goals though. They used to be, they surely aren't now.

Getting them to Ilevel 119 is, but not just getting one. No soloist is going to get a 119 relic anytime soon.

Also how does allowing trusts in Aby make your friends who you party with to finish that faster and then quit, none of them presumably need trusts anyway. FFXI isn't about finishing long-term goals anymore because the goals are constantly being moved. I-level alone shows you that.

I didn't quit when I finished my king gear set, my homan set, my relic, my af3 etc People that are still playing this game are not the kind of people that get a lolrelic and quit.

When I said having trust will reduce the time it takes to build a relic, I mean trust in Dyna. I care less about having trust in abyssea but just find it unbelievable that ppl complained about Abyssea NM not soloable.

Even if relic isn't long term enough, able to build one even faster just make things worse, not better. So what you just said contradicts your own opinion.

Of course ppl that are still playing isn't kind of ppl that'd quit. Because the ppl that's get bored and quit are already gone ._.

[Pixela]

When I said having trust will reduce the time it takes to build a relic, I mean trust in Dyna. I care less about having trust in abyssea but just find it unbelievable that ppl complained about Abyssea NM not soloable.

Even if relic isn't long term enough, able to build one even faster just make things worse, not better. So what you just said contradicts your own opinion.

Of course ppl that are still playing isn't kind of ppl that'd quit. Because the ppl that's get bored and quit are already gone ._.

I and most of the people I knew that quit didn't quit because they capped out on things, they quit because the dev team we had sucked and the game was going down the drain due to XIV starving it to death.