Rate of Leveling and the New Player Experience

[Multiabuse]

I had to start over from scratch recently, and honestly, it isn't that big of a deal. I finished all the "gates": CoP, all the limit breaks, advanced jobs I had any interest in doing, and it was the most fun I've had in awhile, even though not all of it was pure fun. The only "hard" part was trying to steal a THF testimony so I could fight Maat, and that took all of 45 minutes. I also have the perspective of someone who did these things when they were current and really frustrating, so I'm sure that factored in. I spent a lot of time looking it all up, too.

I see people asking for the removal of everything they don't like in game to "speed things up" or make it easier, but if SE took out all the drudgery (which doesn't take that long) there would literally be people whining about having nothing to do. SE wants you to enjoy their game, but player lust for new content far outweighs their resources to actually make it. And asking them to give you a mainline into that content without having to do any prerequisites at all just means you will be back on the forums asking for something to do. And from what I read daily, it will be mostly bitching and complaining with the occasional really intelligent and well-written post. Why on earth wouldn't you -want- to do CoP or WotG? Aside from the rewarded rajas ring/moonshade earrings (which are still utterly amazing), those expansions are filled with background and story and provide a lot to do in game....and you only have to do it once. It doesn't give much credence to your arguments that they need to remove gates when you haven't passed them yet.

I'm frankly stunned people are complaining about getting around these days. Several posts back someone indicated that the work to simply obtain the starting Trusts was absurd. Having to actually travel ONCE to a home point before being able to use it forever is too much to ask? I don't buy that. If you are a brand new player, you can always expect transportation to be rough until you have actually hoofed it to a new zone, in any game.

They can't make content relevant to 18 people AND 3 and have it be anything complex or interesting. True to form, new delve works better by brute forcing through the "gimmicks" and not actually abiding them. Some of us enjoy the idea of downing content that actually takes all of our combined strengths to defeat. Knowing that it would be much less of a struggle to take 3 takes that away. You get the same drops, you get the same rewards, but you don't have to share. You have trusts, you have sparks gear, you have 1 person entry requirements into almost everything, and for the latest Delve, you don't have to bring a stunner, but you still scream bloody murder anytime someone asks for large group content. Can you not celebrate your victories without attacking people who, amazingly, like to play with others? People like Mr. "Incosequential Minority" and his BPD ilk make me loathe this game more than anything SE could possibly add. So my suggestion to make this game better is to start by removing him from it.

[BlueNarciss]

I had to start over from scratch recently, and honestly, it isn't that big of a deal. I finished all the "gates": CoP, all the limit breaks, advanced jobs I had any interest in doing, and it was the most fun I've had in awhile, even though not all of it was pure fun. The only "hard" part was trying to steal a THF testimony so I could fight Maat, and that took all of 45 minutes. I also have the perspective of someone who did these things when they were current and really frustrating, so I'm sure that factored in. I spent a lot of time looking it all up, too.

I see people asking for the removal of everything they don't like in game to "speed things up" or make it easier, but if SE took out all the drudgery (which doesn't take that long) there would literally be people whining about having nothing to do. SE wants you to enjoy their game, but player lust for new content far outweighs their resources to actually make it. And asking them to give you a mainline into that content without having to do any prerequisites at all just means you will be back on the forums asking for something to do. And from what I read daily, it will be mostly bitching and complaining with the occasional really intelligent and well-written post. Why on earth wouldn't you -want- to do CoP or WotG? Aside from the rewarded rajas ring/moonshade earrings (which are still utterly amazing), those expansions are filled with background and story and provide a lot to do in game....and you only have to do it once. It doesn't give much credence to your arguments that they need to remove gates when you haven't passed them yet.

I'm frankly stunned people are complaining about getting around these days. Several posts back someone indicated that the work to simply obtain the starting Trusts was absurd. Having to actually travel ONCE to a home point before being able to use it forever is too much to ask? I don't buy that. If you are a brand new player, you can always expect transportation to be rough until you have actually hoofed it to a new zone, in any game.

They can't make content relevant to 18 people AND 3 and have it be anything complex or interesting. True to form, new delve works better by brute forcing through the "gimmicks" and not actually abiding them. Some of us enjoy the idea of downing content that actually takes all of our combined strengths to defeat. Knowing that it would be much less of a struggle to take 3 takes that away. You get the same drops, you get the same rewards, but you don't have to share. You have trusts, you have sparks gear, you have 1 person entry requirements into almost everything, and for the latest Delve, you don't have to bring a stunner, but you still scream bloody murder anytime someone asks for large group content. Can you not celebrate your victories without attacking people who, amazingly, like to play with others? People like Mr. "Incosequential Minority" and his BPD ilk make me loathe this game more than anything SE could possibly add. So my suggestion to make this game better is to start by removing him from it.

You sound like yet another old player saying things are getting too easy. Good for you, if you don't value your time. A lot of players that don't have 10 hours a day to do stupid crap in a game like unlock 5 year old progression content that is completely irrelevant now. If I want to go back and experience that content, that's how I want to do it. What is the point of a game based around playing and enjoying the game with multiple people if I don't theoretically get that opportunity until late game? I think you're just another mindless drone coming on here to tell everyone they have made things easy enough when we just ask for accessibility instead of making levels easier to obtain. Get out of here with that nonsense.