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    Player wildsprite's Avatar
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    I think honestly if they were going to make FFXI a F2P game they would have to do a lot of preparation and testing before implementing it, otherwise it would fail miserably.

    somehow though I don't see anything like FFXI F2P becoming a reality unless FFXIV:ARR is a big hit, lets face it with all of the competition they have that isn't likely even if it does do better than 1.0 did
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    If they ever wanted to add F2P (P2W), it should be on separate servers. Do not mix subscription based players and F2P players.
    You just made a bad idea even worse with minimal effort. Quick, send in a resume to SE and showcase your talent for development! :3
    and I agree, separating players is just a bad idea all around, Sony tried that with Ultima Online and it didn't work, somehow I dont see it working for FFXI either
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    I never said I wanted either options, but if they were dead set on adding F2P i wouldn't want to be on the same servers as them.
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    Doubt it will go free to play. The servers might as well be shut down indefinitely, rather than SE losing the profit from one of their best games. One of the main reasons that Final Fantasy XI has in fact survived this long is because of the money coming in from the amount of subscriptions to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    I never said I wanted either options, but if they were dead set on adding F2P i wouldn't want to be on the same servers as them.
    I actually wouldn't. If they ever added this, I'd want people who buy ingame options for real life money as far away from me as possible.
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  5. #135
    Player wildsprite's Avatar
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    the likely hood XI will ever go F2P is null, that part is a fact, SE is not going to partially change it, it will stay Pay to Play, likely till the life from it is gone, if you really want F2P options look around the net, there are plenty of them, you might even find one you like

    now if they did decide to do F2P it is my opinion it should be all or nothing, because to have subscription and free together doesn't work well, it often screws up game dynamics and it often makes pay players leave, or the free players just give up, either way not healthy

    but since we know it isn't going to happen I think people should lighten up on the whole idea
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    Free to play month.

    Seems someone is testing the water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castanica View Post
    Free to play month.

    Seems someone is testing the water.
    Heh, well it isn't working too well, at least not fer me who had an account deactivated during this 'test'.

    They say I had to pay off the bills for the previous 30 days, but I'm pretty sure that's not how the billing works nowadays.

    >.>;
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    I don't think you understand how free to play games work. They don't just open the servers and money magically appears, if they wanted to "test the waters" they would've done something like offer buying plasm for money or something (maybe not that obvious, but they have zilch instead). It's more likely it's just a "look how much new stuff there is in the game" period to encourage old players to resubscribe. Easy to get someone hooked again by just making them play a few hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard View Post
    I don't think you understand how free to play games work. They don't just open the servers and money magically appears, if they wanted to "test the waters" they would've done something like offer buying plasm for money or something (maybe not that obvious, but they have zilch instead). It's more likely it's just a "look how much new stuff there is in the game" period to encourage old players to resubscribe. Easy to get someone hooked again by just making them play a few hours.
    The fact of the matter is, is that FFXI still has a good bit of life left in it, because with the new stuff they implemented, I am definitely subscribed for a good long while. This was to just let old players come back to see what's changed, and while it wasn't executed like it SHOULD HAVE BEEN, hey I've been seeing an influx of players lately. I'd rather it stay P2P, just for the sole fact that it doesn't accelerate the death of the game (Because look at TOR, they went F2P for the first 20 levels, and all it did was piss everyone off. Why? Because too much content and races got locked up if you don't wanna fork up money.) Then comes the fact that employees will lose pay because a game isn't coughing up as much, people will get frustrated, complain, leave. That's only going to make the playerbase upset.


    I say P2P, it's lasted so long and has continued to be a successful game for 11 years, I think if they care deeply for XI, they can produce content to keep it going for a good while. If their back is to the wall, yes F2P but only limited, but other than that if you make it F2P, the real problem is the influx of people coming in.


    This is the Runescape effect. Every little prepubescent child will come onto this game, their bad mouthing behavior because they think they are cool cussing up a storm, and making everything miserable. It's the kind of little kids you find on CoD, always yelling "OMG CHEATER!" and trust me, they'll find a way to call foul play on someone who's put their time in on this game. Then there's the moochers, asking for handouts. This game was about earning your stuff, while RoE does indeed do that with weapons, you still gotta find your armor. If new players who are part of the F2P surge, things will only be worse...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anjou View Post
    The fact of the matter is, is that FFXI still has a good bit of life left in it, because with the new stuff they implemented, I am definitely subscribed for a good long while. This was to just let old players come back to see what's changed, and while it wasn't executed like it SHOULD HAVE BEEN, hey I've been seeing an influx of players lately. I'd rather it stay P2P, just for the sole fact that it doesn't accelerate the death of the game (Because look at TOR, they went F2P for the first 20 levels, and all it did was piss everyone off. Why? Because too much content and races got locked up if you don't wanna fork up money.) Then comes the fact that employees will lose pay because a game isn't coughing up as much, people will get frustrated, complain, leave. That's only going to make the playerbase upset.


    I say P2P, it's lasted so long and has continued to be a successful game for 11 years, I think if they care deeply for XI, they can produce content to keep it going for a good while. If their back is to the wall, yes F2P but only limited, but other than that if you make it F2P, the real problem is the influx of people coming in.


    This is the Runescape effect. Every little prepubescent child will come onto this game, their bad mouthing behavior because they think they are cool cussing up a storm, and making everything miserable. It's the kind of little kids you find on CoD, always yelling "OMG CHEATER!" and trust me, they'll find a way to call foul play on someone who's put their time in on this game. Then there's the moochers, asking for handouts. This game was about earning your stuff, while RoE does indeed do that with weapons, you still gotta find your armor. If new players who are part of the F2P surge, things will only be worse...
    This is silly.

    I played FFXIV for a while and the community there is worse than any I've seen anywhere, that's p2p.
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