Free to play plans?

[xbobx]

Server maintanence could potentially go down the drain too if the pay-out doesn't turn out to be at least as high as what they are getting right now. I really don't want to see routine server outages.

they would only do it if their research points at getting more money on a ftp model. You have ftp and a premium plan. Like swtor you limit areas like dynamis etc.

but either way, SE will do it if it will make more money, they won't do it if they will lose. All arguments don't matter. All that matters is what will make them more profit.
And if you think they care what you think, they don't.

[Toadie-Odie]

Oh I understand that the bottom line has the ultimate say in something like this.

Still doesn't change my current opinion of my money being well spent in this game though. I still enjoy the game and I'm happy with it. If they went to F2P I would have to wait and see what changes it made to the game before deciding if my enjoyment factor was altered in either direction.

Edit: I'm just concerned the game would take a turn for the worse from switching to F2P in the long run is all.

[Caketime]

Yeah but since when does a case of beer last a full month? ;p

The average life expectancy of a case of beer in my house is about 4 hours, less if it's a case of Leinie's Summer Shandy, that stuff tastes like candy. I advocate spiked beverages as well, but personally I have trouble controlling my intake after I get a good buzz going, and whiskey and vodka turns me into an angry kitty so I tend to favor beer over other forms of drank. It's good for an evening of being main heal during events that are designed to be as boring as possible from a support perspective, like Abyss NM spamming or VW in general, basically anything with an aura or alternate forms of status effects that can't be cured by normal means.

I realize that none of what I just typed has anything to do with F2P outside of being able to buy more cases of beer by way of free gaming, so here's a thing or two. With what we already know about who would make such a decision for the game and the possibly massive effects it could have on the entire community, and also going by the levels of Sadism expressed by SE's designs, this game could change drastically overnight in the worst ways possible. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean it absolutely would happen but the potential is there.

Can you imagine hordes of people running around in hot pink cash shop items, spamming the chatlog with cash shop emotes, and referring to anyone wearing regular gear as "freebies"? It's called Hell, I once spent a summer there as part of an exchange program.

[Bizniztyme]

do you pay your monthly fee for WoW, AND Rift AND Ryzom and everysingle paying MMO?


complaining about paying 12.95 for a month of nothing isnt

HUH? I've read this at least 20 times and still can't make out what you're trying to say. If you're trying to say you pay and play all those games as well, that's your choice. You complain about a measely 12.95 because you endulge yourself in all those pay to play games as well? Who's fault is that?

If you're saying you're getting nothing out of paying 12.95 for a month of ffxi, then don't pay and play? It's that easy. Don't be complaining about the fee because yes, it's stupid.

If i'm wrong about what you're trying to say i'm sorry because like i said, whatever you typed there is very hard to get a coherent meaning out of it.

[xbobx]

Oh I understand that the bottom line has the ultimate say in something like this.

Still doesn't change my current opinion of my money being well spent in this game though. I still enjoy the game and I'm happy with it. If they went to F2P I would have to wait and see what changes it made to the game before deciding if my enjoyment factor was altered in either direction.

Edit: I'm just concerned the game would take a turn for the worse from switching to F2P in the long run is all.

It could. SWTOR was a disaster when they switched because they limited it so much that all they did was frustrate new customers. I understand what you are saying about the cost. But there is a difference to what you are willing to pay and what is acceptable. You really have to step away from the game and take an unbiased stance when looking at it. I could not see anyone seeing the value now compared to before. Look at this last patch, nothing really there. I am still waiting for the very simple to implement recycle traits they said they were going to do six months ago.
I use to enjoy the days of patch note announcements. There use to be so much content. Now you can predict what you will get, an update to their flavour of the month content.

Notice no changes to magian coins, and drops. People been waiting a long time to complete their weapons but can't because the content is completely dead on many servers.

[Toadie-Odie]

@ xbobx: Fair enough. I guess even after all these years of playing, I'm technically just a casual player. I log in nearly every day and simply fart around with whatever personal project I've got going on - even if it's just rearranging my Mog House furniture yet again. I never minded things taking awhile since I log in mostly just to chill. I find the price acceptable for my needs and I'm willing to pay that price to continue to enjoy what I do. This isn't to say my way is the right way. I know my slow but steady approach to things can/will/does drive people bonkers. So when it comes to my stuff, I take it at my pace but when I'm helping others with their stuff I take it as seriously as they do.

As for the promised updates that have yet to come... all I can say is if they don't cut that out it won't matter whether it's a sub or F2P model or not. You make no money at all if your player base is gone.

~~~ /tosses Caketime a beer: "hot pink hell"... hmmm lol I don't know but I think I get enough of that random weirdness with my boys at home. If the game goes that route and I chose to stay with the game I think I'll be content being labeled a "freebie loser".

[Helyos]

Camate can you please come in here and tell these people FFXI has no plans on becoming Wizards 101? That'd be great thanks.

[Mirage]

If they ever wanted to add F2P (P2W), it should be on separate servers. Do not mix subscription based players and F2P players.

[Rustic]

Either way, SE needs to do some better advertising. The last time I saw any public interest in the game was when FFXI started having steam sales. We're 2 months from Adoulin and there's no advertisement being done at all.

People forget that FFXI is chronologically about as old as Everquest.

EQ still puts out an expansion every year, roughly. They don't advertise them much at all. The PR machine for a game this old is very small, considering even the minimal effective investment in advertising wouldn't really bring enough of a response to merit spending it.

[Caketime]

If they ever wanted to add F2P (P2W), it should be on separate servers. Do not mix subscription based players and F2P players.

You just made a bad idea even worse with minimal effort. Quick, send in a resume to SE and showcase your talent for development! :3