best gear for a 90drk/sam

[Kagato]

Penitence +2, Rose Strap, Fire Bomblet
Bale+2 Head, Bale Choker, Brutal Earring, Abyssal Earring
Bale+2 Body, Bale+2 Hands, Hoard Ring, Rajas ring
Atheling Mantle, Goading Belt, Ace's Hose, Ace's Sabatons

Considering ACC is pretty much useless now, I suggest only carrying such things as a backup in case you find yourself actually missing the target somehow, and honestly, if you're missing a lot, you should ignore your STP build and eat some Pizza.

I have my Bomblet and Abyssal on stand-by while I use Aesir Ear Pendant and Bomb Core instead.

Also, in regards to redemption and it's low delay not being able to do an effective 5-HIT, abyssea or not, you don't need to make any major sacrifices in gear to do it.

Rose Strap, Aesir Ear Pendant, Brutal Earring, Hoard Ring, Rajas, Goading Belt and Ace's Sabatons will get you enough STP you need as long as you /SAM and eat Carbonara. And again, this is for OUTSIDE abyssea. Inside, drop the Hoard Ring and use a good Regain atma like VV (which any respectable DRK should be using in the first place).

Penitence +2 only makes it easier due to the delay. Also, +2 is only equal to the level 90 redemption. It will lose it's luster once the level cap raises again while Redemption and Apocalypse continue to hold the candle for the best Scythes to use.

IMO, it's better to just use Twilight Scythe and ignore Hoard Ring from the setup I gave (Losing 4 STP will still net you a perfect 20TP per swing for a 5-hit). It's easier to obtain (At least I thought so) and you can put that ring slot to better use without losing any STR or DEX (and in turn ATK and ACC). This is just my preference since you can do whatever you want to reach 5-hit.

Just go for what is easier to get. If you can get Penitence +2 faster, do that. If you already have a twilight scythe or can get that quickly, do that instead. The difference between them isn't major. Yes, you get Quietus, but lets be honest here. Quietus is just a different-looking Guillotine.

Either way, both Scythes are only just placeholders for Apoc, Redemption, or whatever else is coming in the future.


tl;dr version: You have options. The differences really just boil down to 1 or 2 different gear choices and whether you eat STP food or not.

[Unctgtg]

Apoc will be on top again
Why is noone using Bale Earring (I know I do since acc is not an issue), since I have +35 acc with my Apoc alone.

[vedder]

idk unc but i know most of us are, maybe kag just hasnt got yet?

another question, should i redo quest abyssal > suppa? idk....kinda mixed about it....

[Kagato]

I don't have it yet.

[Dart]

I've asked a good deal on bg about caladbolg vs redemption and the math people there all claim that the gsword beats redemption because quietus is just THAT bad.

Personally I'm torn, not really sure which drk empy to do

[Dart]

idk unc but i know most of us are, maybe kag just hasnt got yet?

another question, should i redo quest abyssal > suppa? idk....kinda mixed about it....

bale earring pretty much makes abyssal earring useless unless you like the look of 5 more skill on your skill level, it doesn't break any tiers or increase our dmg enough to beat bale earring, suppa on the other hand is extremely useful for what should be obvious reasons. I know that i'm redoing DM with my shell to get a suppa.

[Raelia]

Yeah, I get it guys.

Gradd could still turn down the 'asshole' level about four notches first. I know and understand what he's saying, it just wasn't what I was arguing to start with.

"Accuracy and Attack are useless" is a dangerous meme though.

[Mojo]

I was browsing various job forums out of boredom and stumbled across this thread. There's a long held misconception that I would like to correct. Some people have an idea that fight duration has something to do with how effective delay reductions are (from Haste or Dual Wield or simply a weapon with a smaller delay.) There is some truth to it, but it's the opposite of what people typically think.

Every weapon, even without any form of delay reduction, will experience 'waste delay' when you're not the one to get the killing blow. What I mean is that you've swung and you're waiting on your delay but the mob dies before you can swing again. So, for instance, say a fight lasted exactly 15 seconds from when you engaged and you had a 480 delay weapon without any haste. You only ended up swinging twice, once when you engaged and once 8 seconds later, thus there's 7 seconds of 'waste delay.'

In this situation, adding 6% haste would result in a marginal gain of 0% because that individual fight did not last long enough to swing a third time. However, adding 7% haste would put your delay low enough to get in one more swing, which is a marginal gain of 50%.

This exact situation isn't going to occur every fight, I just wanted to illustrate how flawed it is to assess marginal gains from delay reduction in the context of how long a fight would have to be to swing exactly one more time. In fights where you don't swing one more time with the addition of some haste gear, you certainly won't benefit from it, but in other fights you will end up swinging one more time than you would have, and the marginal gains from adding that haste gear is increased.

In the overall scope of things, the amount of 'waste delay' you have is actually decreased by delay reductions. Your killshot frequency will increase (killshots yield 0 waste delay) and your actual delay decreases, decreasing the maximum amount of waste delay you can experience.

[vedder]

to kaga~ bro i cant recall if it was nameless or taint but they gave me the strat to solo kill sisyphus on blm w/ apoc atma so its very doable, hell im sure if i was an ass i could cockblock ppl an kill on drk/insertsubofchoicehere using same strat just more stones the spot is an ideal kite/deagg spot, mind u i cheated and brought my whm mule cus ill be the first to say leet i am not so im sure u can do eet!

also galka (noob)blm mp sucks horribly even in abyssea ;_;

[Jar]

Yeah, I get it guys.

Gradd could still turn down the 'asshole' level about four notches first. I know and understand what he's saying, it just wasn't what I was arguing to start with.

"Accuracy and Attack are useless" is a dangerous meme though.

Gradd knows his shit stop posting for a sec and read what he is saying and try not to be looking for a way to out smart him.