Wildskeeper Reive Feedback

[Redryno]

The WKR are hot now, there are 100+ people in there and they will go fast. The issue (in one) is there aren't enough Cor so people come Blm to nuke the fodder, when the Col rate goes up i'm sure it will start to go as fast as the other WKR. IMO making the monsters harder or making it so Blm do less damage will hurt WKR when all the hype dies down.

How is it people are so lazy they won't take 8-10hrs to lvl a job 1-99?

[Rwolf]

IMO making the monsters harder or making it so Blm do less damage will hurt WKR when all the hype dies down.

How is it people are so lazy they won't take 8-10hrs to lvl a job 1-99?

That's why I said the WKR mobs should despawn back to normal levels after not being killed immediately. Which already happens in abyssea if they aren't killed for a certain period of time after their level is increased. Speed up that same process for Wildskeeper Reives and you have a flexible event that can accomodate large 100+ groups. It has nothing to do with being lazy to level BLM for Wildskeeper Reives and in the grand scheme of things no one should have to be forced to do so.

Separate suggestion for Wildskeeper Reive is making fighting the Naakaul count for more per evaluation. It's very easy to cap bayld on fighting adds but if solely on the team helping damage the Naakaul, its possible but harder to cap depending on the length of the fight.

[Redryno]

They aren't forcing us to lvl blm (maybe cor) they are forcing us to get the Col Rate up, once its up people will be attacking the lion and all the WKR will go fast.

Separate suggestion for Wildskeeper Reive is making fighting the Naakaul count for more per evaluation. It's very easy to cap bayld on fighting adds but if solely on the team helping damage the Naakaul, its possible but harder to cap depending on the length of the fight.

I like this but some of the Naakaul die in 15 min or so and I think this would just cause issues (hate issues, aggro and so on).

[Rwolf]

They aren't forcing us to lvl blm (maybe cor) they are forcing us to get the Col Rate up, once its up people will be attacking the lion and all the WKR will go fast.

In regard to Kumhau (Kamihr Drifs Wildskeeper Reive) the colonization rate isn't up but it's not about just Kumhau. All of the Colonization Reives are filled with BLMs because with so many mages it's hard, almost impossible to melee. Granted yes part of this is due to the popularity of Wildskeeper Reives but it won't go away immediately. With all the new drops it'll take awhile for most to get what they wanted + some of the most desired pieces are not exclusive, allowing you to sell them. Kumhau's accessory drops especially. We also still have one more naakaul to come.

I'd rather they do something now to make it enjoyable to the masses instead of saying wait for it to die out or go BLM if you're having trouble. Having the adds respawn higher level depending on time spent alive doesn't penalize anyone. All it ensures is regardless of the size of the reive, players can participate. If it was 50 people instead of 200 then the adds wouldn't increase in level because they aren't dying quickly enough.

I like this but some of the Naakaul die in 15 min or so and I think this would just cause issues (hate issues, aggro and so on).

How would increasing the evaluation points for fighting the Naakaul cause hate issues? Would you mind elaborating? If my last post sounded confusing as in saying increase damage on Naakauls then I apologize. I am saying that doing actions on the Naakaul should have bonus evaluation points, not increased damage to the Naakaul. Not enough to say you need to damage the Naakaul or you won't get good evaluations, but enough to balance it out. Even at high colonization rate, it's harder to cap because the Naakaul has higher defense/stats than the adds. Making it harder to get evaluation points.

[Redryno]

How would increasing the evaluation points for fighting the Naakaul cause hate issues? Would you mind elaborating? If my last post sounded confusing as in saying increase damage on Naakauls then I apologize. I am saying that doing actions on the Naakaul should have bonus evaluation points, not increased damage to the Naakaul. Not enough to say you need to damage the Naakaul or you won't get good evaluations, but enough to balance it out. Even at high colonization rate, it's harder to cap because the Naakaul has higher defense/stats than the adds. Making it harder to get evaluation points.

I foresee that everyone in the zone will be attacking the Naakauls trying to get the "Bonus eval" witch could draw hate from the tank, also they may not kill any of the other monsters witch would lead to them aggressing players.

One thing i don't understand is why everyone thinks blm is the key, you could go rdm, whm, sch, rng, cor, blu and so on, these can get points from killing the fodder monsters or curing and raising. The blms i see are casting T3 spells on the monsters because anything with a longer cast time and you won't get it off before the monster is dead, a zone full of rdms or sch could do the same thing.

Maybe they should lock the WKR after 100 people get in (or 75, or 50), that way if you don't have the correct combo of jobs it will be a lot of work?

[Rwolf]

I foresee that everyone in the zone will be attacking the Naakauls trying to get the "Bonus eval" witch could draw hate from the tank, also they may not kill any of the other monsters witch would lead to them aggressing players.

If they balanced it, it wouldn't be an issue. For most jobs, they can't survive taking hate or even being in the vicinity of the Naakaul for too long. It's really no different than now, most are capable of killing the Naakaul outright (sans Kumhau right now due to Colonization rate). Either they desire to draw the battle out longer or know if they go in without support, they'll die quickly. The only Naakaul I've seen players zerg on Bismarck is Colkhab and that's just because she's not that threatening compared to what the others can do. Dying repeatedly from stealing hate is more than enough incentive to stay back, especially since magical jobs sans SMN via avatars lose MAB upon double weakness.

One thing i don't understand is why everyone thinks blm is the key, you could go rdm, whm, sch, rng, cor, blu and so on, these can get points from killing the fodder monsters or curing and raising. The blms i see are casting T3 spells on the monsters because anything with a longer cast time and you won't get it off before the monster is dead, a zone full of rdms or sch could do the same thing.

Maybe they should lock the WKR after 100 people get in (or 75, or 50), that way if you don't have the correct combo of jobs it will be a lot of work?

I think the consensus is that it's not just BLM, just BLM is the posterchild for elemental magic and the main destroyers of adds due to fast cast + elemental celerity and higher native MAB. I see plenty of RDM, GEO, even SMN/SCH (I do sometimes), BLU and so on. But it does still leave half of 22 jobs getting the short stick. Raises don't happen like they use to. Colonization rate being high or low, the effect is still the same.

Nothing needs to be nerfed, that's just lame. But it would be nice to see something added to reives in general to make them more flexible to quanity of players inside.

Regarding the menu with the NPC "Dimmian," the interface is the worst in the game. Purchasing key items has so many unnecessary delays between prompts and the game should not keep asking you to buy more key items when you already have all of them.

Yes, please fix his menu. -_- Definitely nothing more than a quality of life update and mild annoyance. I would like to be able to just cancel out after buying my key item instead of have to double confirm I don't want anything else.

[Redryno]

Nothing needs to be nerfed, that's just lame.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

[Celoria]

The WKR are hot now, there are 100+ people in there and they will go fast. The issue (in one) is there aren't enough Cor so people come Blm to nuke the fodder, when the Col rate goes up i'm sure it will start to go as fast as the other WKR. IMO making the monsters harder or making it so Blm do less damage will hurt WKR when all the hype dies down.

How is it people are so lazy they won't take 8-10hrs to lvl a job 1-99?

I completely disagree, there needs to be some form of adjustment plan and simple. Sorry but I won't take the time it takes to lvl a job from 1-30 outside abyssea (which takes nearly 8 hours alone due to nobody doing exp anymore.) then sit and hope for 4-5 days that I can get enough people for an abyssea party where I can key/leech, then go off and skill the job, then spend the time for the merits, fighting to get people in abyssea long enough for a party to last more than 30 merits worth of exp and furthermore find the gear for the job to be ready for the one thing I would use the job for. A 10-45 minute fight 1 or 2 times a day if I am lucky, that means it still doesn't have to interfere with my delve ls.

Not a practical idea just because you have chosen to like or use one job doesn't mean everyone needs to conform to your ideas and be like you. Lazy? No, logical? Yes.

As for the ToAU content and mages having it rough, I remember I was there, I also remember blm got it made when the blm burn party's came out on Xarcabard (S). Every job has had its time to shine moments. Every job has had its low end. However I think this is a time that all jobs should be useful. This 4 jobs being useful is getting old, pld, cor, whm and blm only.... Kinda needs some form of adjustment.

Now I saw the 250 bayld/exp per eval idea. Great idea if I wanted to sit there and lose exp and spend 2 hours at the lion weakend, not to mention this is a new account, (my old one was hacked) which means I still have yet to get all my wins for shinryu. Even still, not practical to sit there and just die over and over to get a reward.

[Karah]

I completely disagree, there needs to be some form of adjustment plan and simple. Sorry but I won't take the time it takes to lvl a job from 1-30 outside abyssea (which takes nearly 8 hours alone due to nobody doing exp anymore.)

What!!? If it takes you more than maybe 3 hours to get level 30... you're clueless. Which is nothing compared to the days it used to take even @ 10 hours.

Any, on topic, WKR still suck. I want the hat already, 32 is enough I think personally.

Library quest needs to be repeatable. Period.

And 100% R/M/E item.

[Redryno]

I completely disagree, there needs to be some form of adjustment plan and simple. Sorry but I won't take the time it takes to lvl a job from 1-30 outside abyssea (which takes nearly 8 hours alone due to nobody doing exp anymore.) then sit and hope for 4-5 days that I can get enough people for an abyssea party where I can key/leech, then go off and skill the job, then spend the time for the merits, fighting to get people in abyssea long enough for a party to last more than 30 merits worth of exp and furthermore find the gear for the job to be ready for the one thing I would use the job for. A 10-45 minute fight 1 or 2 times a day if I am lucky, that means it still doesn't have to interfere with my delve ls.

Not a practical idea just because you have chosen to like or use one job doesn't mean everyone needs to conform to your ideas and be like you. Lazy? No, logical? Yes.

As for the ToAU content and mages having it rough, I remember I was there, I also remember blm got it made when the blm burn party's came out on Xarcabard (S). Every job has had its time to shine moments. Every job has had its low end. However I think this is a time that all jobs should be useful. This 4 jobs being useful is getting old, pld, cor, whm and blm only.... Kinda needs some form of adjustment.

Now I saw the 250 bayld/exp per eval idea. Great idea if I wanted to sit there and lose exp and spend 2 hours at the lion weakend, not to mention this is a new account, (my old one was hacked) which means I still have yet to get all my wins for shinryu. Even still, not practical to sit there and just die over and over to get a reward.

If you get lvl 13 and grab one of your delve ls buddies to do pages for you it shouldn't take you more then 2-3 hrs to get from 1 to 30. 2-3 delve DD or blm can keep the whole dom ops camp dead (maybe just one) in 5-7 hrs you can get 99+ 30 merits. Skill ups come easy with rings and food, takes a few days to cap skill.

You don't have to conform and lvl what jobs are needed to get the job done, but it is easier for you to get these things done when you do.