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    Since the community was going to shrink either way, not grow, it makes no sense to keep them just as painfully annoying, rather than at least making some changes to WKs, which might have kept more people here...
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    Valefor is probably among the worst, because our active population is so low, but we're not the only server in this predicament. I've never actually seen a thread highlighting the greatness of WKR, though I do realize that content players have no reason to complain, but neither can unsubscribed players, or people waiting out their time while they play another mmo.

    For too many players, myself included, the experience is so unpleasant that they just stop going.
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    FFXI is old, outdated, limited to PS2 limitations. Old game engine that's like an old Honda, but you are expecting it to put out like a BMW.

    This community is old, just about everyone is at the inevitable question or is close to the enevitable question. It's like Tom and Jerry.

    Each content they put out, they are facing a crowd that's bored, ready to speed through what they implement and complain there's nothing else to do because everyone has already passed all other content and is waiting for the DEV team to add more.

    It's hard to please those who are at the end.


    And most players are at the end.

    And that's the big picture I'm telling you all to look at. Yeah WR takes so much effort. Eventually people will quit. If the DEVs do not budge, then eventually people will come to their senses that the spoil cookie train has come to a stop and start realizing "This is it" since the DEVs won't budge, might as well make due with what's there.

    I see this game as a bar trying to bring clients in every day of the week, but people keep complaining they want more, more more. So the owner spoils everyone only to come to a point where they need to take a break and leave it to the people to decide if they really do love the place, then support it.

    Because it gets to a point where too much money being invested in a short period of time is only hurting the establishment.

    And it's only hurting the people trying to please you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Yeah you are talking about your experience on Valefor. Now imagine DEV team reading feedback from every server. Not just yours.

    Then again making it easier so everyone kills off WR means increase in power of the overall community only to make you and everyone speed past the current content faster than they can put it out.
    Oh, I see, so if 4 servers can take down WKs because they have a lot of people, but all of the other servers don't have enough people and take forever, those servers just have to deal with it, otherwise, it would be easy for the 4 good servers. That's bullshit logic and you know it. That's no justification for screwing multiple other servers full of players...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Oh, I see, so if 4 servers can take down WKs because they have a lot of people, but all of the other servers don't have enough people and take forever, those servers just have to deal with it, otherwise, it would be easy for the 4 good servers. That's bullshit logic and you know it. That's no justification for screwing multiple other servers full of players...
    No I'm saying they need to analyze the aftermath of 14 release, see how many people will leave, how many will come back, observe how all servers are dealing with the hurricane before they can come to conclusions of making a change that doesn't require adjusting every few days.

    You really want SE to shutdown the servers every single time they need to adjust it according to how you think?

    You should know by now that updates are for this.

    Look beyond the box and see it from the bigger picture and not from the moment things happen.

    There are reasons why updates are mapped out. Otherwise shutdown the server every day because you and everyone else wants the DEVs to change something.

    You are not the only person giving feedback.

    NA community is not the only community DEVs listen to.
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    I also know that they did 2 updates since the release of Yumcax & Hurkan, neither of which addressed the issues with the content. They had one less than 2 weeks ago, it could have easily fixed the issues with WKs had they put in the time for it, but no, its the same as it was before hand except now even less people are doing it. They did multiple emergency maintenance for things the same week that the WKs came out in the first place. I think people would be ok with them performing another to fix the things so people could get the drops they want actually without super long fights or getting nothing for their time.

    The bigger picture is simple, a piece of content they released less than 2 months ago is nearly unplayable because of the lack of interest from the players. Less than 2 months old, and already abandoned, that is why it needs fixed, it requires way to many fkin people, its way to fkin time consuming, and if they don't change it, it will continue to be that way. They didn't change it for the originals yet which were the same way less than 2 months after their release. They have had a while to do this, nothing has been done, that's a problem and they need to fix it now, not in 3 months when no one cares, not in a year when hardly anyone plays, now! They already have shown they outdate content quickly now, and by making WKs die off this fast, you are asking for people to do it the first few weeks it out, and never again.
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    Last edited by Demon6324236; 08-31-2013 at 02:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    I also know that they did 2 updates since the release of Yumcax & Hurkan, neither of which addressed the issues with the content. They had one less than 2 weeks ago, it could have easily fixed the issues with WKs had they put in the time for it, but no, its the same as it was before hand except now even less people are doing it. They did multiple emergency maintenance for things the same week that the WKs came out in the first place. I think people would be ok with them performing another to fix the things so people could get the drops they want actually without super long fights or getting nothing for their time.
    Because you are complaining about an event that I think the reward should motivate you enough not to complain about getting a pebble or ore.

    Unless you think its best that WR be the only content relevant and everything else in SoA worthless. Only adding in better rewards to keep you interested tells me screw all other SoA content and make WR the only thing to play.

    Which wouldn't make sense right now because who would ever do Delve and help others do Delve and other parts of SoA?

    I'm looking at the event for what it is. Not for what I expect it to be.

    This is not VW where you spam a boss 50 times a day and earn crap synthesis materials.

    This is an HNM event just the same when back in the day HNM such as King Behemoth were the main focus of getting the best items. If you really want those items so bad then regardless of the challenge, do it.

    A person can earn 75k Bayld in 1 hour. What's the problem? You can earn some of that Bayld back. No camping 24/7 for an entire week and no competition. And no killing each other over who gets a single drop.

    What I see is you people are use to the VW spams that you expect WR to be the same.

    And all I see these complaints sound to me like, I want the best but I hate the effort it takes to earn them.

    If the effort is so hard then that should mean its because the item you want is not meant to be earned easily.

    I still think WR is way better than doing hopeless quests like Mythic.

    I'd rather spam Hurkan and Yumcax all day everyday than sit in town finding people to decide who will farm alexandrite a and how much I have to share to those who are not even working on Mythic.

    Quests, Einherjar, ZNM, Missions, assault, Salvage, Besieged, and whatever other ridiculous requirements it takes to build one...

    I hated VW for the fact people who got their items stopped playing and did not go back to help others get what they needed.
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    Last edited by Daemon; 08-31-2013 at 02:35 PM.

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    Funny thing is after 450+ comments to this thread, I probably could have done Hurkaan and Yumcax over 30 times and possibly have gotten a good drop by now.
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    I also think once the DEVs analyze the aftermath of FFXIV release, they can sit down and figure out how to resolve issues like lack of people, server merges, and adjust all events according to the manpower that's left. Which again is why I said wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    I also think once the DEVs analyze the aftermath of FFXIV release, they can sit down and figure out how to resolve issues like lack of people, server merges, and adjust all events according to the manpower that's left. Which again is why I said wait.
    Waiting is the worst game ever. Lines at the DMV don't cost $12.95 a month and sadly are more populated.
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