95 And Below RME Weapons

[Wyrmnus]

How so? How am I being Selfish? I'm merely just annoyed at that kind of response considering the topic. What's wrong with balancing out the R/M/E Stages up to 99 so that they make sense? Are Elitist players that afraid of being potentially knocked off their high horses?

[Zagen]

How so? How am I being Selfish? I'm merely just annoyed at that kind of response considering the topic. What's wrong with balancing out the R/M/E Stages up to 99 so that they make sense? Are Elitist players that afraid of being potentially knocked off their high horses?

Didn't think I actually had to explain it...

You're calling people with 99s selfish because they don't want previous versions updated.
You're being selfish because you don't want to put the same amount of effort as they did and still want to have a weapon close to their 99 weapon.

[Wyrmnus]

I still don't see the problem with proper balancing though.

[Zagen]

I still don't see the problem with proper balancing though.

How is a level 95 weapon being balanced for level 99 content 'proper'?

[Wyrmnus]

I didn't say make a 95 Weapon practically the same as the 99 stage. I said to make the base damage levels of the stages increased so that it's a... sensible looking increase per stage up to the final 99 stage. Oh... Nevermind.

[Demon6324236]

While I think they do deserve an update, I also know why SE will not do it. So far as Matsui has said, we may not be going up by visible levels but we are progressing through pseudo-levels within level 99, as though it were 99.01 or 99.02, as someone else said these RME99 upgrades are probably somewhere around the level 120 region, meaning 99.21 and since it is that way they are in fact a level upgrade, rather than simply an upgrade from nothing. Even if they simply change the stats, the weapon in their eyes is more so a level 120 item than a level 99 item, so changing a level 90 item to fit is putting it at like level 110 level, or 105 level, far beyond where it is meant to be.

[Bstmode]

NO, STOP BEING LAZY... do the TRIALS that have been SETUP that A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE A 99 DID and are probably CONTINUING TO DO!!!!

I lol'd at the bolded. Not sure where your info is from, but there are not 'a lot of people that have a 99'. Would have to wait and check the most current Vana'diel census, but I'm almost certain that the number of people who have a 99 empyrean complete is at most a few percent of the population. Which brings me to my point...

Many people stopped building these weapons past 85/90 because they had still achieved an increased gain in their character's ability compared to alternatives. Players would start trials knowing that even if they stopped at 85/90, they would still achieve significant gains. That was kind of the point of magian trials and it's a lot how things work in real life. You want something, you work to get it. You want something nicer, you work a little harder.

IRL logic:
I work my 40 hrs a week and I can afford to make payments on my Camry. I'm happy with my current situation because it allows me to still have some free time to do things I like to do. I could totally burn myself out and work 12 hrs everyday to afford a Benz, but the fact that I am comfortable where I am does NOT make me lazy. Earn what you own.

That being said, I feel that the trials are fair. I have no beef with plates taking a larger investment for only a slight gain in comparison to previous trials. However, I don't see the harm in scaling up all of the weapons so that the original spirit and intent of magian trials, the idea of earning a weapon based on your on personal level of commitment, is still respected.

[xiozen]

I admit, I got emotional in my response, so I concur that my use of "a lot of people" is somewhat over the top and perhaps unrealistic; but my point was made. As far as your quote:

However, I don't see the harm in scaling up all of the weapons so that the original spirit and intent of magian trials, the idea of earning a weapon based on your on personal level of commitment, is still respected.

Since we both probably do not work for the development team, we won't understand their logic for not having already scaled certain weapons in the game prior to or even after release of the SoA content... perhaps this requires addressing... I don't know.

[Babekeke]

This still annoys me how short-sighted people can be, with their references to anyone who has not finished their r/m/e to 99 must be lazy.

For some people, RL>FFXI.

Not to mention, some people actually made 10 empys, but only took a couple of them to 99. Are they lazy??? Really!?!?

[Bstmode]

I admit, I got emotional in my response, so I concur that my use of "a lot of people" is somewhat over the top and perhaps unrealistic; but my point was made.

To put it in perspective for you... Based on the 11th vana'diel census:

There were a total of just over 65k empyrean weapons across all servers that were level 85 or higher(excluding instrument and shield). Out of those 65,000+ empyreans, a mere 550 of them were unlocked to level 99. Less than 1 out of every 100 people who unlocked an empyrean weaponskill bothered to take their weapon to what you called 'completion' at level 99.

You basically said that more than 99% of the population of FFXI is lazy because they couldn't be bothered to 'complete' their weapons. Now you're saying that perhaps that is unrealistic?

Perhaps you are the winner of the "Understatement of the Century" award...