New weapons with higher base damage then relics

[Yinnyth]

I would disagree. If i didn't feel like doing dyna I did salvage to sell alex. Likewise I didn't care about heavy metal plates so I could do vw and sell those. Variety is the spice of life or game. Now if these weapons are as broke as people saying, you have one event. I don't think that is cool personally and will detract from game. Also, the drops to enter the bcnm seem to be lucked based at this point. Again, not cool. I prefer a goal I can work towards, not RNG. Why I liked salvage and dyna and even NNI. We plugged away at 80 wins and got all our gear. Took a bit but it was fun.

Lol, someone just said in linkshell they have 100k bayld. Everyone was like wow, that sounds really boring. It is not just me. We are on vent and everyone laughing at the ridiculousness of doing reives all the time. YMMV of course. Just my feelings and those around me.

I suppose you're right about the variety. If these weapons are as strong as they seem to be, if they're as easy to obtain as people claim they are, if they never upgrade RMEs, the number of people doing other events would certainly decrease because they'd feel they're not worthwhile. We have very little information on how difficult these weapons are to obtain, however. And SE has mentioned they intend to do something with RMEs.

I think Dynamis, Abyssea, VW, and Salvage will all die out someday. Just not anytime too soon. Perhaps a few years from now. I have my doubts that these weapons spell the end for older events and gear.

[Asymptotic]

SE has a strong motivation to keep people doing those events. It's really not in their interest to kill them off.

[CrAZYVIC]

This is temporary

Square wish we play the new content, if they dont make interesing items, the people will not go to play the expansion.

They wish we break the routine and slow down Dynamis / VW / Salvaje for a while. For now Seekers 100%. In about 1 year im sure they will come with another upgrade for Our legendary weapons and the New seekers weps will be what now a lv 85 emp or a walk of echoes are

We need to be patient. this is just a strategy for move all people.

Another important point. 1/10 players Can make a R/E to lv 99 and 1/100 players can make a Mythic. The hardcore players are the Minority and the casual are most. Even if the hardcores are the most loyal and the players will stick until the servers Shuting down. The money is what move the direction of every MMRPG and the devs will follow the Money, even if they piss their hardcore players sadly. a MMRPG is ruled with Cold heart, Not with emotions.

Im absolutely sure, they planed all this. Have you Seen Pop Camate to this topic to calm to the people? No.. They knew this would happen, many people would be dissapointed.

[Crusader81]

Don't worry everyone, SE fix is in coming soon! and it will kick ass!

That's about exactly what they'd have to add to make this game worth it, sadly they have not.

Not sure why people are saying just wait a year or two, and they'll fix things. I mean do you know how ridiculous that sounds? How long do people think this game has left? Might as well add a cash shop now and make the new relic cost $144 as that's what you'd be paying anyhow.

In a years time I'm going to be so far into FFXIV ARR I'm not sure I'll ever think about this game again. I was hoping to spend my time in SoA before XIV's launch having fun, and even built a Relic over the past 5 months to prepare for SoA.

How disappointed I was... not just this Relic deal (which is huge) but that all the content just isn't fun, it's monotonous, and for all I can tell eventually somethings will happen? If people keep grinding, Although I noticed the colonization rate is still 0 in many places on my server and in Ceizak has already gone to a stand still, so I'm not sure enough players will stick it out for that that happen.

[Fermion]

This is temporary

Square wish we play the new content, if they dont make interesing items, the people will not go to play the expansion.

They wish we break the routine and slow down Dynamis / VW / Salvaje for a while. For now Seekers 100%. In about 1 year im sure they will come with another upgrade for Our legendary weapons and the New seekers weps will be what now a lv 85 emp or a walk of echoes are

We need to be patient. this is just a strategy for move all people.

Another important point. 1/10 players Can make a R/E to lv 99 and 1/100 players can make a Mythic. The hardcore players are the Minority and the casual are most. Even if the hardcores are the most loyal and the players will stick until the servers Shuting down. The money is what move the direction of every MMRPG and the devs will follow the Money, even if they piss their hardcore players sadly. a MMRPG is ruled with Cold heart, Not with emotions.

Im absolutely sure, they planed all this. Have you Seen Pop Camate to this topic to calm to the people? No.. They knew this would happen, many people would be dissapointed.

That was all well-said (even though it's obvious English isn't your first language, the thought was conveyed nicely), but I'm sure it's falling on deaf ears. The playerbase did this to themselves.

On forums people exaggerate and use overly dramatic language. For instance, let's say weapon A does 5% more damage than weapon B, honestly, it's not a big deal and barely noticeable. But lots of people act as if weapon B is totally worthless. I've literally heard weapon B called "lolwep", "worthless", "gimp", "waste of time", I could go on and on. Then someone who has a weak background in math comes along and reads the posts, and actually takes the rhetoric literally. Hence R/E/M only shouts for Meeble Burrows for example.

[Jaall]

It's basically just got the point where you genuinely have to be the best to do any event, all because of people's attitudes. However though, I don't feel gimping R/M/E is the way to go about fixing that, and yes I say gimping, because most of these new weapons s**t all over them in terms of dmg output, especially the H2H. Items that need so much effort and time to obtain should always be the best until such a time as they're easier to get. Simple SE, if you want to outclass relics, hand them out to people left right and centre by making 5x more currency drop in dyna, 5x more plates etc and remove every quest leaving only half the alex needed to create a mythic. Only when it's that easy to get R/M/E will people be satisfied that you've outclassed them because at this point they are still very hard to get in comparison. Sort it out SE... unless of course your ultimate aim is to kill FFXI off.

[Kincard]

I feel the need to mention that even if you didn't care about them outdating old weapons, I for one sure as hell am not interested in them pushing forward their only relevant content as "whack roots for 15 hours until you either roll the lottery for a dungeon entry piece or have enough points for 1 attempt at an NM".

In b4 someone says "b-but you can still do that old content if you really wanted to", implying that I could get people to do Garrison or Eco Warrior without shouting for hours days or 6-boxing it by myself.

[Lotto]

Almost 250 comments and not a single answers from the devs? I thought they opened this forum to ease the communication. I guess gaijin don't deserve to have informations.

[Luvbunny]

I feel the need to mention that even if you didn't care about them outdating old weapons, I for one sure as hell am not interested in them pushing forward their only relevant content as "whack roots for 15 hours until you either roll the lottery for a dungeon entry piece or have enough points for 1 attempt at an NM".

Yes it's pretty much whack da roots for 15 hours or so. Granted they didn't design reive to spammed 15 hours nonstop. It's suppose to be casual log and whack (unless you wiped - which often happen all the time). They seriously need to revise SoA content to be more fun. But the other problem is that most people don't seem to know how to work in a team together. Meeble is one of the "teamwork" oriented content and pretty much abandoned by players. So I do worry that even if they open all the SoA contents, people will leave in droves because they have no clue on how to maximize their jobs role in the group. It's not just "yay gonna whack it" and go zerg whatever coming your way. Utilizing your jobs ability and coming with basic strategy is important.

Abyssea is great at getting you to 99 so fast - but the major problem is a lot of people are too lazy to test their jobs and figure out a way to maximize its potential and understand crowd control and what a teamwork means. You are suppose to take advantage of the atma and cruor buff to go out there and test your macro etc dealing with Abyssea NM as your test drive. Now we are paying for the consequences of AFK leeching to 99 without even spending time to learn the job on your own - and how to play properly.

[Kincard]

I don't know what you're talking about. Plenty of people did Meebles, its just a lot of the people that cared already got everything they wanted from it or they don't care to try because the drop rates are too awful (Abatteur/Gusterion/etc), which is compounded by the fact that they're dropped items and you need 5-26 tickets in order to do a single boss fight, unless you pay your way up.