New weapons with higher base damage then relics

[Aeonk]

you know I think it would be cool if they did drop from the Naakuals; furthermore I hope that those hnms are harder than tiamat/pw/av/vrtra/jormy back in the day; I think that would solve everyone's Q.Qing, not to mention would come with a fun fight. also it would be awesome if they did what they did with pw and av where the updates never gimped them if anything they made them harder (3 hour race to defeat the 21 versions of PW back in the day lololol)

You realize that it's those types of mobs that enforce the "zerg it down" mentallity everyone hates now right? Mobs that can kill you just by making eye contact does not make for an engaging fight, just for a "kill it before it kills us" fight. And until now we've had Perfect Defense/Embrava to deal with those mobs. Now with the recent nerf, if you continue to make mobs like that it's only going to frustrate the playerbase and bleed subscriptions.

Despite the prestige that having the Virtuous Saint title used to have, no one should want another AV. It doesn't have to be abyssea god mode either, but a nice balance in the middle (with some game mechanics getting fixed) that'll create engaging gameplay.

[Areayea]

You realize that it's those types of mobs that enforce the "zerg it down" mentallity everyone hates now right? Mobs that can kill you just by making eye contact does not make for an engaging fight, just for a "kill it before it kills us" fight. And until now we've had Perfect Defense/Embrava to deal with those mobs. Now with the recent nerf, if you continue to make mobs like that it's only going to frustrate the playerbase and bleed subscriptions.

Despite the prestige that having the Virtuous Saint title used to have, no one should want another AV. It doesn't have to be abyssea god mode either, but a nice balance in the middle (with some game mechanics getting fixed) that'll create engaging gameplay.

tbh I do want another av... i want another 7 avs... I think that'd be awesome >.>; there is an undefeatable mob that takes very specific strategies to defeat... rather than that zerg it down strat that you just outlined. as for that zerg it down before it kills us I want these to have benediction that activates if you do that >.> I think it'd be awesome.

[Jaall]

tbh I do want another av... i want another 7 avs... I think that'd be awesome >.>; there is an undefeatable mob that takes very specific strategies to defeat... rather than that zerg it down strat that you just outlined. as for that zerg it down before it kills us I want these to have benediction that activates if you do that >.> I think it'd be awesome.

I actually LOVE that idea! On any NM that's killed in say a minute that should last a lot longer, they should just have auto benediction lol, would be a new challenge for people and force them to use a strategy. Definitely a good fix for the whole zerging thing.

[Elphy]

I actually LOVE that idea! On any NM that's killed in say a minute that should last a lot longer, they should just have auto benediction lol, would be a new challenge for people and force them to use a strategy. Definitely a good fix for the whole zerging thing.

But if you can zerg it down in a minute or two even benediction wouldnt be anything more than a minor annoyance.

What would be nice is if say they introduced a nm that cycled thru weaknesses, blunt/piercing/magic/etc at random or one that just became plain invulnerable to ws/magic/etc damage unless certain conditions were met (ie nm is only vulnerable to magic damage when silenced, or nm is only vulnerable to piercing damage while poisoned), so you couldnt just easily zerg it. Even enfeebs being useful again would be great since as of now they are all but worthless on most mobs and esp most nm in the game.

A good ai that adapted to your fight style would also make things a whole lot more fun.

[Ravenmore]

I actually LOVE that idea! On any NM that's killed in say a minute that should last a lot longer, they should just have auto benediction lol, would be a new challenge for people and force them to use a strategy. Definitely a good fix for the whole zerging thing.

No it wouldn't. It would be just the same old tank and spank or kiting. Really thanks to FFXI outdated code and LOLps2 there are only 3 ways to beat any boss, tank and spank, kite, zerg. With the over use of 30 min time limits zerg ahs became the main strat since you don't have the time or the area to do the other two.

[saevel]

tbh I do want another av... i want another 7 avs... I think that'd be awesome >.>; there is an undefeatable mob that takes very specific strategies to defeat... rather than that zerg it down strat that you just outlined. as for that zerg it down before it kills us I want these to have benediction that activates if you do that >.> I think it'd be awesome.

Except you'd just zerg it down .....

You realize we killed AV by zerging right .... until SE patched it ... then we zerged it again ... and again and again.

[Areayea]

Except you'd just zerg it down .....

You realize we killed AV by zerging right .... until SE patched it ... then we zerged it again ... and again and again.

not like AV now... AV like it used to be... impossible to cap defense, uses all the tricks in the book, and like the 75 AV... impossible; nowadays everything old content is a push over... as for the other person above about the kite, zerg, and tank and zerg methods... remember, there did used to be more to this game than kite and zerg... there was defeat this one first. lol god I remember passing and failing so much on divine might back in the day. and don't forget about throwing things at sky gods helped... then there were outside party strats. ect. you see where I'm going, nobody is used to things that can't be "zerged down" lol maybe they should make these new bosses be resistant to slashing damage... that would throw a wrench in DD's gears XD

[Lotto]

not like AV now... AV like it used to be... impossible to cap defense, uses all the tricks in the book, and like the 75 AV... impossible; nowadays everything old content is a push over... as for the other person above about the kite, zerg, and tank and zerg methods... remember, there did used to be more to this game than kite and zerg... there was defeat this one first. lol god I remember passing and failing so much on divine might back in the day. and don't forget about throwing things at sky gods helped... then there were outside party strats. ect. you see where I'm going, nobody is used to things that can't be "zerged down" lol maybe they should make these new bosses be resistant to slashing damage... that would throw a wrench in DD's gears XD

Do you know how AV got killed at 75? Kraken club DRKs zerg until they nerfed Blood weapon.
Also back in the days there used to be outside parties for only one reason : every end game linkshells had more than 18 people who showed up to events.
Why do you think people prefer to zerg every NMs? It's way better to spend 10mins to buff and kill something then stare at a screen for 2hrs and pray for a win.

[Areayea]

Do you know how AV got killed at 75? Kraken club DRKs zerg until they nerfed Blood weapon.
Also back in the days there used to be outside parties for only one reason : every end game linkshells had more than 18 people who showed up to events.
Why do you think people prefer to zerg every NMs? It's way better to spend 10mins to buff and kill something then stare at a screen for 2hrs and pray for a win.

lol embrava gimp reminds me of blood weapon gimp, but still I miss the days of ppl spending 2 hrs to pray for a win... mind I remind you of the 18 hour Pandemonium warden XD; I still say they'll fix the zerg strat by making the mobs resist slashing... would make a ton of rangers/cors get knocked out tho O.o

[saevel]

lol embrava gimp reminds me of blood weapon gimp, but still I miss the days of ppl spending 2 hrs to pray for a win... mind I remind you of the 18 hour Pandemonium warden XD; I still say they'll fix the zerg strat by making the mobs resist slashing... would make a ton of rangers/cors get knocked out tho O.o

Then we just kill it with MNKs or DRG / RNG / CORs / SAMs.

Currently FFXI's engine doesn't support very dynamic interactive fights. All fights end up boiling down to a set of dice rolls of you vs the NM, and that it turn leads to weighting the dice in your favor and rolling as many times as possible. Aka "zerging".