Elements to be Implemented in the March 27th Version Update

[Kincard]

If there needed to be a down side, there'd still be a down side to Restraint.

It does have a downside- the movement speed down. I know you're going to argue that the movement speed down doesn't matter in application but the point is that you actually get the debuff and its noticeable enough so that it's less useful in events where you need to move around a lot more (NNI for instance). Berserk was always supposed to have a downside of making you take more damage but the fact is that in application you never actually notice it because players have such low defense as a standard. Making it so that the defense actually matters will make it more than just you going "oh no the number in my equipment window went down".

[Demon6324236]

If there needed to be a down side, there'd still be a down side to Restraint.

It does have a downside- the movement speed down. I know you're going to argue that the movement speed down doesn't matter in application but the point is that you actually get the debuff and its noticeable enough so that it's less useful in events where you need to move around a lot more (NNI for instance). Berserk was always supposed to have a downside of making you take more damage but the fact is that in application you never actually notice it because players have such low defense as a standard. Making it so that the defense actually matters will make it more than just you going "oh no the number in my equipment window went down".

Restraint, Enhances your weapon skill power with each normal attack you land.

Retaliation, Allows you to counterattack but reduces movement speed.

[Kincard]

Whoops, my bad, that's what happens when you only browse stuff.

I'm still not seeing the logic of "if this JA has no downside no JAs should have downsides". Berserk was obviously designed with you sacrificing defense for attack in mind, and now that they made it so that it actually matters people are moving to goalpost to "It should not penalize you at all"?

There are buffs that give increases with no downside (Focus, Dodge, Boost, Divine Seal, Restraint etc) and ones that penalize you in exchange for something (Yonin, Innin, Defender, Last Resort, Counterstance). If you want to argue that Berserk shouldn't actually have a penalty have some sort of reasoning behind it rather than just stating a random JA that happens to not have a downside, because that's not an argument when there's multiple JAs of both sorts.