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    Quote Originally Posted by Godofgods View Post
    I agree with that. Iv had 100ww with capped subs for a while now, but I'm not bothering touching the 100-110 without a shawl. Such a drastic price increase, and rare materials. I may not even do it for a long time even if i had the shawl. (Of course since i hate fishing, its looking farther and farther away)
    You don't need more than Fishing 26 to open "Inside the Belly". Then it's just buying fish and hoping for the Shawl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustic View Post
    You don't need more than Fishing 26 to open "Inside the Belly". Then it's just buying fish and hoping for the Shawl.
    At 250-300k+ a fish, and reports of ppl around 0/200 thats not something I'm eager to try atm.

    I thought u had to be minimum of 28 to do the quest. That only as much as +2 equip could be added to your lvl for this quest. (takes 30 to start)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godofgods View Post
    At 250-300k+ a fish, and reports of ppl around 0/200 thats not something I'm eager to try atm.

    I thought u had to be minimum of 28 to do the quest. That only as much as +2 equip could be added to your lvl for this quest. (takes 30 to start)
    When a single skillup can literally be millions of Gil, I'll take my chances at upping my odds early.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustic View Post
    When a single skillup can literally be millions of Gil, I'll take my chances at upping my odds early.
    Yeah, even if it takes 100 matsya to get the shawl, that's 40 million gil. At 6 million per synth trying to skill up, if it saves even 7 synths it's already made you money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louispv View Post
    Yeah, even if it takes 100 matsya to get the shawl, that's 40 million gil. At 6 million per synth trying to skill up, if it saves even 7 synths it's already made you money.
    Just to give people a simple example of "what it's like to craft with a Shaper's Shawl":

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustic View Post
    Just to give people a simple example of "what it's like to craft with a Shaper's Shawl":
    That's not shawl, you'd skill up just as quickly without it. Synthesis skill ups get rarer the higher the level the synth. I got alchemy from 1-40 in a couple hours, but then it took leather 80 or so synths to get one+0.1 at 80.

    Though like I said, just a couple saved synths, even an imperceptable +1% increase, breaks even for you at higher levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louispv View Post
    That's not shawl, you'd skill up just as quickly without it. Synthesis skill ups get rarer the higher the level the synth. I got alchemy from 1-40 in a couple hours, but then it took leather 80 or so synths to get one+0.1 at 80.

    Though like I said, just a couple saved synths, even an imperceptable +1% increase, breaks even for you at higher levels.
    I've done +4/+5 cap skillups before. Even in the high 20's, you don't get that constant stream of skillups. At that point, he was literally 100% on skillups for every single successful synthesis. Normally, it's more like 50-65% or so. Heck, for an example from when I was doing Alchemy.

    Cap 29 item. started at 21 skill with Adv. Imagery for an effective 24 skill.

    21-22 took 20 synths. Two of these were .2 gains. Six were .1 gains. Five were failures.
    22-23 took 15 synths. Again, 2 were .2, six were .1 gains. Four were failures.
    23-24 took -thirty- synths. One was .2, eight were .1 gains. Nine were failures.

    Total synths from 21-24: 65 crystals. 18 failures, five .2 gains, twenty .1 gains. Compare that to the ram leather + shawl pic above.
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    Last edited by Rustic; 03-13-2013 at 01:08 AM.
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