The Grand Crafting Adjustment Thread

[Rustic]

What about skillups. It is so frustrating to farm supplies and do 12 synths and get no skillups at all. I am lv 65 leathercrafter making coeurl leather (cap 71) and get about 5% skillup rate. Considering that the highest drop rate is 17% on the hides means ~6 hours of farming for each level and having to find something to do with 50 stacks of coeurl leather.

If you're going to be trying to do an incredibly difficult synth at a level where skill gains drop off so badly, may I suggest that you do a -little- more research on "what to do with 50 stacks of coeurl leather" if they're REALLY burning that hole in your inventory?

Coeurl Cesti are cap 72 and vendor for a respectable 2K or so each. Enjoy. And just wait till you hit the 90ish range and start treating a 0.1 skillup like you won the lottery...

[Godofgods]

And just wait till you hit the 90ish range and start treating a 0.1 skillup like you won the lottery...

oh.. so ture...

[Economizer]

What about skillups. It is so frustrating to farm supplies and do 12 synths and get no skillups at all. I am lv 65 leathercrafter making coeurl leather (cap 71) and get about 5% skillup rate.

Skill up food does wonders, and I've heard the Shaper's Shawl gives a 25% boost to skillups, although good luck getting one.

Considering that the highest drop rate is 17% on the hides means ~6 hours of farming for each level and having to find something to do with 50 stacks of coeurl leather.

Drop rates are a little bit higher according to FFXIDB. Still, someone else would be able to farm the hides for you if only they could stack, but since they can't, the AH isn't exactly a stable option for selling such a large quantity. So really, if I could change anything to improve crafter's situations, it would be this.

Crafting is a bit of an investment, so sometimes you end up with junk you can't use. That said, I dunno about your server, but Coeurl Leather sells for about 40k a stack at a reasonable speed on mine (Bonecrafters need it for a pair of sets). You could also hold onto it for crafting the Coeurl Jerkin Set, which while it isn't useful, is later crafted into other pieces, such as the Ogre Jerkin Set, or to make a Dusk Mask. Still, it would be nice to see stuff that isn't this useful have more high level usage, such as being able to make some sort of consumable item out of Coeurl Leather since the gear it used to make is mostly obsolete.

[Miiyo]

Doesn't matter what it is, some responsibility needs to be taken. Making it possible to super level up killed the crafting market and nothing was done. 70%+ of what can be made to try to skill up is hard to come buy and not close to being as profitable as it is expensive to make.
New abjurations make me want to kick someone in the face. For the difficulty and price of making a +1, E V E R Y single piece of new abjuration should be epic. Alas... we have my signature >.>b

[luso1988]

ok first off
this is coming from a Returning player from over 10 YEARS AGO
back then EVERYTHING was hard and people dreaded dieing becuase u die too much and people see it , and no one will invite you too there party at this point.
now no one cares....
anyway on too the topic at hand
Crafting / Conquest ITEMS / General UPDATE
What the hell is the point of Crafting or conquest items now?
besides the super high lvl crafts and the warp/reraise scroll " aside from these " there isnt one im told

1: Make Ore Stack to 12 . everything else is stackable for %$#^# sake

2: Make an Optional bag for miners / loggers / harvestors " only ore / lumber / wood / plantss can be placed in it" Space Crafting total Levels * 1

3: Add New Items too the Conquest Item List , Update them an Include new ones Even Genaric ones....

4: add Items Conquest voucher too conquest npc shop
" trade 10/1 conquest to voucher - trade conquest voucher too npc for item " item will auto bound "
and becuase it auto bounds no effect on the econemy other then lose of sales...
no more gill will be pumped into the system from this nor can the item be sold just as leaping boots

5: make item - Moogle whistle or something - Calls Moogle too pickup items - fees apply
number of zones * your total job lvls * 100

6: Update the Mog house , Add a Linkshell Wherehouse " Sharing items space "

7: Update the Mog house , make the room bigger and Remove the mog from the house... you already have the ability to bring up the menu and use mog ... or at least move em to the corner and DELETE the dam rug

8: Give Option in Shops too buy more then one ore at a time " if they stacked to 12 or 30 you could just buy em ...

9: Increase the price of Coper ORE 8 a piece is outragus , consittering they sell for 100 on maarket ,
and 4 of them+FC make u 2k

10: Give Aby a Limited runs per WEEK , your flooding the people with EASY money making everything else pointless

11: Keep the Warp Moogle in the citys , don't remove them

12: make Book Burns LIMITED per DAY , i played for almost a year last time
i never made 50
i started again 4 days ago and im now 55 DRK , i didnt even have a ADV job last time

13: Update the Gardending and Chocobo System too give better or more frequent Rewards

14: quit this nonsince called FF14

15: update Games Grafics

16: Reduce Cool down on Normal NM's seeing as you can go too aby and fight them all the time
why should non aby players have to wait 8 hours?

17: add Proper Decriptions too the real REQUIREments of Abyssle and such
exsample dont go in till 75+ " available 30? thats all marketing and you know it.

18: add Bot Check Spawn " monster apears are you human? yes no? type yes or no...
if you dont answer within 10 minutes you will be moved too a city
repeated failure in a day will resualt in Death Cast and lose of EXP after like the 4th time
prevents botters , this needs too apply too Fishing too , i dunno how they did it

but i ran into 15 people with similar names , same poles same fishing gears , casting and recasting at the SAME time . that Reaks BOT

[Ayrlie]

There has to be an easier method of getting certain cooking ingredients for skill levels 100-110. HELM has drove me crazy to the point I quit doing that in favor of camping the AH for Cerebus and Dragon Meats and making Red Curry to 101 and Smoldering Salisbury Steak to 110.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

There has to be an easier method of getting certain cooking ingredients for skill levels 100-110.

Walk of Echoes!

/duck

[Economizer]

I'll mostly just focus on what has changed in any way that was on the suggestion list. If it isn't listed, it is likely because almost nothing has changed:

Consumables can take a lot of effort to craft, what with large amounts of crafting, and having to bag or quiver large amounts of them. So for all (appropriate) crafts, I will propose a crafting KI that works like Trituration or Boltmaker, but instead of just lowering the need for a crystal, it will automatically bag the results so HQ can have more then a stack of 12 or 99 as the result.

This will be particularly important for Ninja Tools, although making Bolts, Bullets, and Arrows will also greatly benefit. Bolts and arrows could probably be from an adjusted or renamed "Boltmaker" while bagging toolbags and casing cards could be from a new "Bagging" or "Bundling" KI that all crafts can obtain.

Nope. To be fair crafting delays have gone down a little, which slightly lessens this, however you still have crystal costs, which have maintained for various reasons.

Alchemic Purification is only used to make Hallowed Water which is very useful, but the KI could be expanded to make other recipes.

They added one item, Resolution ring.

Bonecrafters would benefit from certain bone materials possibly being made stackable.

And so it has.

Bone Purification is only effectively used to make Vivified Coral (Reraise Gorget/Hairpins) which is very useful, but otherwise doesn't make very useful things, much like the majority of enchanting KI.

Still only used to make Vivified Coral, however Vivified Coral can now be used for an Airmid's gorget, and Blenmot's Ring/+1.

Cloth Ensorcellment generally doesn't make very useful things, much like the majority of enchanting KI.

Slightly more useful since its used in making a piece of Scholar gear that can now be reforged.

Cloth Purification is used to make the materials to make the Blink Band and much of the Spolia/Optima Set. It gives a decent model for how to make the enchanting KI more useful with the new Spolia/Optima gear, although the materials list could be expanded.

Optima gear is now obsolete, and the Blink Band is all but and is more rarely selling.

Slightly useful still since it is used in upgrading some gear that can now be reforged so it can be upgraded for less chapters.

Cooking is overall a pretty strong craft as is, even some of the lesser used KI are still pretty strong. That said, food in general is in need of some work, particularly for mages, and to a lesser extent pet jobs and evasion heavy jobs. While there is a strong thread about this already, it bears repeating. Food needs to be better balanced in roles other then just melee attack, ranged attack, and defense.

Defense food is more valuable to mages now with defense changes, as well as dINT being slightly more useful.

Reportedly Cehuetzi Snow Cone has some Magic Attack Bonus on it, but since it is rarely made and requires a semi-expensive item to make.

Stewpot Mastery could use more varied and more exciting recipes, and probably a PR agent.

Stewpots could probably still use more exciting recipes, but at least it got the Warthog Stewpot.

Patissier could use stronger recipes, although this has more to do with food sucking for mages more then anything else.

Cehuetzi Snow Cones have been added. Are they useful? They take a 100~200k item to make and are targeted for mages that have had food neglected for years, so who knows?

Fishing really needs to be possible in Windurstian Mog Houses.

And the Mog Garden doesn't count!

Seeing certain ores, particularly the low level Copper Ore, be made stackable would be a great boon for Goldsmiths everywhere.

And so it has.

Gold Purification is used in making the materials for the popular Reraise Earring and the less popular Poisona Ring and Stoneskin Torque, although it could be used in making more recipes in the future.

The Stoneskin Torque is less useful now, and sells rarely, however Reraise Earrings are still popular. Gold Purification is now also used in making item the Malison Medallion.

Leathercraft would benefit pretty well from some or all hides become stackable, particularly Sheepskin and Karakul Skin.

And so it has.

Leather Purification is used in making Vivio Sheep Leather, which is used in the Ugol/Mavros Set for Goldsmithers. It gives a decent model for how to make the enchanting KI more useful with the new Ugol/Mavros gear, although the materials list could be expanded.

The Ugol/Mavros Set is now obsolete.

Metal Purification is used in making Lightweight Steel Sheets for the Numus Set with Synergy, although this isn't very useful, much like the majority of enchanting KI.

The Numus Set is obsolete, however Lightweight Steel Sheets are used to upgrade armor that can be reforged, which is useful for saving chapters.

Wood Ensorcellment is used in making the materials for Warp Cudgels, although the recipe list could be extended to be more useful.

Warp Cudgels still sell... somehow. With the introduction of the Warp Ring you'd think they wouldn't however.

[Economizer]

Gonna necro this one, with a bonus post about potions.

Potions need fixed.Sure, people eat Echo Drops, Remedies, Panaceas, Holy Waters, and even Hi-Elixirs occasionally, but for the rest of them, potions are lackluster. Granted, not everything can be a Dawn Mulsum, but certainly potions can be better.

First off, the effect where you can't use abilities or items after using certain potions needs to be removed across the board. Period. From there slight adjustments could be used as follows:

Potions

• Potion - 50HP
• Potion +1 - 60HP
• Potion +2 - 75HP
• Potion +3 - 100HP
• Potion Drop - 60HP, Medicated 5 Minutes
• Hi-Potion - 100HP, 2s
• Hi-Potion +1 - 110HP, 2s
• Hi-Potion +2 - 120HP, 2s
• Hi-Potion +3 - 130HP, 2s
• Hi-Potion Drop - 110HP, 2s, Medicated 5 Minutes
• X-Potion - 150HP, 5s
• X-Potion +1 - 160HP, 5s
• X-Potion +2 - 170HP, 5s
• X-Potion +3 - 180HP, 5s
• Max-Potion - 500HP, 3s, Medicated 15 Minutes
• Max-Potion +1 - 550HP, 3s, Medicated 15 Minutes
• Max-Potion +2 - 650HP, 3s, Medicated 15 Minutes
• Max-Potion +3 - 700HP, 3s, Medicated 15 Minutes

Keep in mind that first and foremost, low level characters using Potions is not a huge issue anymore. Level capped content is mostly gone, and soloing remaining level capped content by spending lots of gil should not be considered a problem.

For potions, making Potions, Hi-Potions, and X-Potions stack to 12 would be a great first step. Drops should stack to 99. Remove Medicated from Drops. Reduce the usage time on Max-Potions to instant, with a 15 second Medicated Effect.

As a side note, reformulate Blood Bolts to be competitive with potions at higher levels after they've been adjusted.

Ethers

• Mulsum, 10MP
• Ether - 20MP, 1.5s
• Ether +1 - 25MP, 1.5s
• Ether +2 - 30MP, 1.5s
• Ether +3 - 40MP, 1.5s
• Ether Drops - 15MP, Medicated 5 minutes.
• Hi-Ether - 50MP, 10s
• Hi-Ether +1 - 55MP, 10s
• Hi-Ether +2 - 60MP, 10s
• Hi-Ether +3 - 70MP, 10s
• Hi-Ether Drops - 45MP, 2s, Medicated 5 Minutes.
• Super Ether - 100MP, 10s
• Super Ether +1 - 105MP, 10s
• Super Ether +2 - 110MP, 10s
• Super Ether +3 - 120MP, 10s
• Hyper Ether - 125MP, Medicated 5 Minutes.
• Pro-Ether - 250MP, Medicated 15 minutes.
• Pro-Ether +1 - 280MP, Medicated 15 minutes.
• Pro-Ether +2 - 310MP, Medicated 15 minutes.
• Pro-Ether +3 - 350MP, Medicated 15 minutes.

Keep in mind that first and foremost, low level characters using Ethers is not a huge issue anymore. Level capped content is mostly gone, and soloing remaining level capped content by spending lots of gil should not be considered a problem.

As you might notice, you can get a stack of Mulsum and eat the entire stack in about 12 seconds for 120 MP. This really sets the stage for how terrible Super Ethers, Ether Drops, and Hi-Ether Drops are. Additionally consider that (Hi-)Elixirs give between 25% and 50% of MP back for a ten second use timer.

Removing the medicated status for drops would be a great start. Ether Drops and Hi-Ether Drops would stack to 99, their recipes would be adjusted to produce more, and restored MP increased to be in line with Ether +1 and Hi-Ether +1 like their potion analogs.

Then, make Ethers, Hi-Ethers, Super Ethers all stack to 12 next. Reduce the use time on all of these medicines. Ethers and Hi-Ethers should be instant, with Super-Ethers being 3 seconds to use.

Make Hyper Ethers and Pro-Ethers give out a percentage of MP (with the current values as as a floor if the percentage value would be too low), as follows, Hyper Ethers - 10%, Pro-Ether/+1/+2/+3 - 20/22/25/33%. This makes them competitive but not entirely better than Elixirs - if you need quick MP you take a Hyper or Pro-Ether, but then you're Medicated. If Elixirs are allowed to stack, these should stack as well.

Elixirs

• Elixir Vitae - 3%, 2s
• Elixir - 25%, 10s
• Hi-Elixir - 50%, 10s

Elixirs and Hi-Elixirs are actually pretty decent. You have trade offs of ten seconds to use them up front, but in exchange you get a massive chunk of HP/MP back.

If there is any issue, it is the lack of being able to stack. Please make these stackable to 12. After this, consider lowering the resale value to NPCs.

Stat Boost Potions

• Strength Potion
• Dexterity Potion
• Agility Potion
• Vitality Potion
• Mind Potion
• Intelligence Potion
• Charisma Potion

These often forgotten potions give +7 to a single stat for three minutes at the cost of medicated for fifteen minutes. The only problem is there are now spells that can give up to +25 of any given stat. Remove the medicated effect, make them stack to 12, and have the buff count as the same effect as a Boost-Stat spell (thus you can't have both).

Stat Boosting Drops

• Red Drop (STR)
• Purple Drop (DEX)
• Green Drop (AGI)
• Yellow Drop (VIT)
• Blue Drop (MND)
• Clear Drop (INT)
• White Drop (CHR)
• Black Drop (Warp)

Not usually craftable, these drops give +5 to a single stat for ten minutes at the cost of medicated for thirty minutes (or an hour for the Black Drop). The same issue applies as the above stat potions. Remove the medicated effect, increase the duration to thirty minutes, and have the buff count as a Boost-Stat spell.

Icarus Wing

Stackable with a three second use time that grants 1000TP or more (with Store TP), these also have Medicated 120 minutes.

Obviously this is a powerful item, but two hours is far too long of a cooldown. Reducing the Medicated time to fifteen or thirty minutes would be more appropriate.