How would you like certain items to be changed?

[bigdave]

increase the damage from 75 mandau to 99 from 39 dmg to 55 at 99look at ragnarock it goes from 83 dmg to 143 dmg

[SMD111]

increase the damage from 75 mandau to 99 from 39 dmg to 55 at 99look at ragnarock it goes from 83 dmg to 143 dmg

you must rember that mandau is one handed and ragnarock is two handed
so with mandau you can dual wield(with mandau and Twashtar you get 110 each attack cycle) plus faster attack speed of 352(with dual wield 1) compared to ragnarock with 431

[Zirael]

you must rember that mandau is one handed and ragnarock is two handed
so with mandau you can dual wield(with mandau and Twashtar you get 110 each attack cycle) plus faster attack speed of 352(with dual wield 1) compared to ragnarock with 431

You must remember the off hand weapon doesn't proc hidden 3x relic damage, or in case of using OAT weapon as off hand, OAT doesn't transfer to main weapon. There are also situations where developers themselves said they want you to full time Thief Knife for TH purposes (and take pride in doing so) so it might hinder your DPS even further.

I'd also like to point out, with Ragnarok, Amano etc, you take it to 99, unlock merit weaponskill and are done. With Mandau, you rake it to 99 and then you take Twashtar99 to off hand. This means it costs TWICE as much TIME and GIL to make Mandau99+Twashtar99 compared to just making Ragnarok99. Also, you're forgetting 1-hander weapons have bigger vs. enemy attack/defence ratio penalty compared to 2-handers (and lower ACC/ATK bonuses from DEX/STR).

Since we're comparing against Ragnarok99, it also has constant CritRate+14% effect and another +5% possible from aftermath, whilst Mandau99 has 10/tic poison.
Did I mention Mercy Stroke being only good SA/TA stacked and outside of that Exenterator with it's AGI mod being junk on anything Tough+ ?

So I say Mandau (and other 1-hand weapons as well) were treated harsher on the way to 99 compared to 2-hand weapon stat growth.

I'm grateful you managed to not misspell Mandau or Twashtar, but there is no such thing as ragnarock in this game.

[SMD111]

You must remember the off hand weapon doesn't proc hidden 3x relic damage, or in case of using OAT weapon as off hand, OAT doesn't transfer to main weapon. There are also situations where developers themselves said they want you to full time Thief Knife for TH purposes (and take pride in doing so) so it might hinder your DPS even further.

I'd also like to point out, with Ragnarok, Amano etc, you take it to 99, unlock merit weaponskill and are done. With Mandau, you rake it to 99 and then you take Twashtar99 to off hand. This means it costs TWICE as much TIME and GIL to make Mandau99+Twashtar99 compared to just making Ragnarok99. Also, you're forgetting 1-hander weapons have bigger vs. enemy attack/defence ratio penalty compared to 2-handers (and lower ACC/ATK bonuses from DEX/STR).

Since we're comparing against Ragnarok99, it also has constant CritRate+14% effect and another +5% possible from aftermath, whilst Mandau99 has 10/tic poison.
Did I mention Mercy Stroke being only good SA/TA stacked and outside of that Exenterator with it's AGI mod being junk on anything Tough+ ?

So I say Mandau (and other 1-hand weapons as well) were treated harsher on the way to 99 compared to 2-hand weapon stat growth.

I'm grateful you managed to not misspell Mandau or Twashtar, but there is no such thing as ragnarock in this game.

yes i understand about the devs saying that a thf should full time thief knife
and i did not include any aug's in my inf again sorry
and oops about ragnarock it should be ragnarok