Un-gimping magic procs in dynamis

[Babekeke]

you know if your going to reply with game data you should probably at least use what is mostly being used for job ability procs which in this case would mostly be Box step(15 second reuses) and Violent flourish (20 second reuses) which are both considerably faster than once every 30 seconds to 1 min, on the magic side your also not considering excluding rdm mp gathers slower than tp does

/sigh

You had to go and say it. You couldn't resist, and went and said it.

Next dev response: "we understand that job ability procs are actually easier than we had originally intended, so they will be reduced to proc the same as magic".

Then the price of currenecy goes up and people stop making relics.

I'm confused as to why BLU would be more of a threat than RDM, BLU actually can kill the mob with spells & has alot less MP recovery than RDM does, where as RDM also has alot more on the defensive side (so far as I know) to keep the enemy from really taking them down.

Blu can get TH2 without THF sub... only real reason I can think of.

[Metaking]

/sigh

You had to go and say it. You couldn't resist, and went and said it.

Next dev response: "we understand that job ability procs are actually easier than we had originally intended, so they will be reduced to proc the same as magic".

Then the price of currenecy goes up and people stop making relics.



Blu can get TH2 without THF sub... only real reason I can think of.

sorry i just cant follow Ramba Ral's example also @ demon6324 generally blu is seen as a much more dangerous DD which generally as a rule is very true but on mobs with low def and assuming the rdm has the gear for it there going to go req it Ralf on the mobs for killer dmg(just look at the unholy amount of mnd a rdm can really stack up ) enough to stack up to blus dmg im not sure.

[Aldersyde]

/sigh

You had to go and say it. You couldn't resist, and went and said it.

Next dev response: "we understand that job ability procs are actually easier than we had originally intended, so they will be reduced to proc the same as magic".

Then the price of currenecy goes up and people stop making relics.

Glad somebody gets it. What was a thread about improving magic procs is now one bitching and whining about how blahblah job is too good at ja proc and which blahblah job is too good at ws procs. Just like how a crab is only good for keeping another crab down, such is the ffxi playerbase, with players pulling down other players to create a common level of mediocrity and frustration. The much vaunted assertion that ffxi has a better community than most other mmos seems so ridiculous when you look at these forums. All I see something akin to a kindergarten class where kids go off on a whining spree when they look over and see someone with a slightly larger cookie or more juice.

[Yinnyth]

Glad somebody gets it. What was a thread about improving magic procs is now one bitching and whining about how blahblah job is too good at ja proc and which blahblah job is too good at ws procs.

If that's what they were bitching and whining about, they'd be asking for JA and WS procs to be nerfed. No one is asking for that. They're asking for magic procs to be buffed. DNC is good at JA procs, good for them. PUP is good at WS procs, good for them. Everyone sucks at magic procs.

[Aldersyde]

If that's what they were bitching and whining about, they'd be asking for JA and WS procs to be nerfed. No one is asking for that. They're asking for magic procs to be buffed. DNC is good at JA procs, good for them. PUP is good at WS procs, good for them. Everyone sucks at magic procs.

That's not the vibe I get from people pointing out dnc ja timer's being so short or automaton's attachment abilities counting as ws. It sounds more like: "..but, but, dnc jas and automaton abilities are on short timers too! Why shouldn't they suck as much as magic proc?" Pointing out what's unfair (to them) is the exact same as saying they want SE to look at it.

That's exactly what people have been doing the last few pages. I'd like better rates on magic procs too. but whining about ja timers being on short timers isn't going to change SE's minds about their reasoning concerning magic proc. All it's going to do is make them look closely at dnc jas and automaton abilities and possibly get them "adjusted." Then everyone will get to suck together.

[Yinnyth]

That's not the vibe I get from people pointing out dnc ja timer's being so short or automaton's attachment abilities counting as ws. It sounds more like: "..but, but, dnc jas and automaton abilities are on short timers too! Why shouldn't they suck as much as magic proc?"

The vibe you're getting is incorrect. No one here wants procs in Dynamis to be made harder in any way. And I'm sure you don't want people to only half-read your posts then invent a false point you're trying to raise which makes you look like a petulant child because that's the vibe they got from your post.

I have PUP, I have DNC. If I know I'll need JA procs, I /DNC. If I know I'll need WS procs, I'll PUP or /PUP. If I know I'll need magic procs, I'm screwed. And that's not how it should work. I should have an option for all 3, and those options should be roughly equal in effectiveness.

[Aldersyde]

The vibe you're getting is incorrect. No one here wants procs in Dynamis to be made harder in any way. And I'm sure you don't want people to only half-read your posts then invent a false point you're trying to raise which makes you look like a petulant child because that's the vibe they got from your post.

I have PUP, I have DNC. If I know I'll need JA procs, I /DNC. If I know I'll need WS procs, I'll PUP or /PUP. If I know I'll need magic procs, I'm screwed. And that's not how it should work. I should have an option for all 3, and those options should be roughly equal in effectiveness.

Of course no one wants that, but there's a possibility that's what's going to happen. This is SE were talking about here.Or have you been playing a totally different game than I have this past decade or so? Actions have unintended consequences? Who knew?

[Yinnyth]

Of course no one wants that, but there's a possibility that's what's going to happen. This is SE were talking about here.Or have you been playing a totally different game than I have this past decade or so? Actions have unintended consequences? Who knew?

So a person points out magic is harder to proc than JA or WS, hoping to get magic proc rate buffed. SE nerfs JA and WS rate as a result. Obviously that person's fault, not SE's.

You're criticizing the wrong group of people. Do you also troll through the PUP forums saying it's their fault embrava and PD are getting nerfed? Because they've complained about their 2hr not being as good as other 2hrs?