Un-gimping magic procs in dynamis

[Yinnyth]

While I largely agree with your argument, your numbers here don't add up. Threnodies have a 2 second cast time, so with 50% spell cast time reduction it would be 1 second each.

I did not math out the fact that I could do 12 threnodies in a minute. I went outside Jeuno, stood next to a lizard, set a digital timer to 1 minute, then started spamming threnodies as fast as I could until the timer went off. I got 12.

You're under-estimating the delay after the spell casts. Just because a spell has 2 seconds casting time, and I have song cast -50% doesn't mean I can get 60 casts per minute. I can't even get 30.

[Metaking]

/sigh

You had to go and say it. You couldn't resist, and went and said it.

Next dev response: "we understand that job ability procs are actually easier than we had originally intended, so they will be reduced to proc the same as magic".

Then the price of currenecy goes up and people stop making relics.



Blu can get TH2 without THF sub... only real reason I can think of.

sorry i just cant follow Ramba Ral's example also @ demon6324 generally blu is seen as a much more dangerous DD which generally as a rule is very true but on mobs with low def and assuming the rdm has the gear for it there going to go req it Ralf on the mobs for killer dmg(just look at the unholy amount of mnd a rdm can really stack up ) enough to stack up to blus dmg im not sure.

[Demon6324236]

Eh, I do Dyna as RDM, in my mind its DD power is overall about the same, then again I don't care much for BLU anymore, but in either case I have been doing great damage with my RDM. I just think of RDM as more of a threat overall not only in solo, but in any case just because of the faster casting & much longer lasting MP pool.

[Calysto]

to be fair for ja procs, unlike ws and spells, they can't hit multiple mobs.
if the rep used that agrument, it would be more convincing than the "recast" thing to me.

but of course, the whole point is meaningless because BALANCE, so go away, nothing to see here.

[Demon6324236]

WSs can AoE, they nerfed the proc rate for AoE WSs hitting mobs other than the one targeted, do the same with spells.

[HimuraKenshyn]

Man some must have some poorly geared blu's if blu/dnc isn't absolutely destroying dynamis solo. Can have TH and can easily kill any Dynamis mob with one self skillchain using very little mp in a blink of an eye.

[Aldersyde]

/sigh

You had to go and say it. You couldn't resist, and went and said it.

Next dev response: "we understand that job ability procs are actually easier than we had originally intended, so they will be reduced to proc the same as magic".

Then the price of currenecy goes up and people stop making relics.

Glad somebody gets it. What was a thread about improving magic procs is now one bitching and whining about how blahblah job is too good at ja proc and which blahblah job is too good at ws procs. Just like how a crab is only good for keeping another crab down, such is the ffxi playerbase, with players pulling down other players to create a common level of mediocrity and frustration. The much vaunted assertion that ffxi has a better community than most other mmos seems so ridiculous when you look at these forums. All I see something akin to a kindergarten class where kids go off on a whining spree when they look over and see someone with a slightly larger cookie or more juice.

[Oakrest]

Hello,

It's an understandable request when reviewing the magic weakness triggering percentages compared to job abilities and weapon skills. The order of proc rates is definitely magic > abilities > WS in order from lowest to highest, so magic is the low end.
The reason why magic proc rate was set at a lower value is because weapon skills require TP, and since they cannot be quickly used over and over again in a single battle we set the activation rate higher. Spells on the other hand have a quick casting time and can be reused at a much faster pace. Therefore, the weakness triggering rate is set lower since the amount of times you can cast is considerably faster. (Abilities are 30 seconds to a couple minutes, so this is in the middle)

We've made adjustments so that the procs occur at their expected values, but since magic spells can be used quickly, there is a remaining impression that weaknesses cannot be exploited.

Does anyone at SE actually play this game any more?

[Demon6324236]

Does anyone at SE actually play this game any more?

lol... no...

[Yinnyth]

Glad somebody gets it. What was a thread about improving magic procs is now one bitching and whining about how blahblah job is too good at ja proc and which blahblah job is too good at ws procs.

If that's what they were bitching and whining about, they'd be asking for JA and WS procs to be nerfed. No one is asking for that. They're asking for magic procs to be buffed. DNC is good at JA procs, good for them. PUP is good at WS procs, good for them. Everyone sucks at magic procs.