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    Player Khajit's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liriel View Post
    This game was always designed to be a grindfest. You must not have been around back near release. It took months of hard work just to get anywhere in level and even longer to get good gear. Abyssea has really done nothing but make everything so easy that you can go in blindfolded and never even learn what your job is even about. I'm glad they did this. Means people might actually venture out away from abyssea to earn gil and learn how to play.

    I'm ending the argument here, because any real player knows that this is a change that should have happened years ago, or never have been started in the beginning. SE isn't depriving players of gil. There's many other ways to earn it. Sure it might take longer, but hey, that's what this game has always been about, slow steady progress so that you know what you're doing, and in most cases, learn how to act as part of a party and actually interact with other people. You wanna solo/low man farm something? Go play a console game by yourself or with a few friends.
    I was around when it was a grindfest which is exactly why I know that trying to return the game to a grindfest only results in a steaming pile of shit. The game was hemorrhaging players and the only reason that stopped was because it stopped being a grindfest. When the level 99 cap announcement came out the first thing people thought was that there's no way they can tolerate having to have exp pts long enough to reach it.

    You seem to be of the impression that the game used to be hard because you had to grind. It wasn't. People were still just as stupid then as they are now and figuring out how to do a job isn't rocket science. Do you think put on haste, wear good weapon is a difficult concept? Do you think macro swaps are designed like some sort of Gordian knot? If a person is too stupid to understand their job it's because they were stupid. not because the job was magically difficult. By the time you're lv 10 you should already get the concept of engaging and using a ws or using magic.
    Thinking that doing something most noobs in valkurm were taught back in the day makes you special is ridiculous.
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    Last edited by Khajit; 10-23-2012 at 05:12 AM.

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    There is a much easier solution... Ban all IPs that tie back to china, this will cause the RMTs to have to use a VPN to connect through another country, which will do two things.

    1.) Give them more Lag
    2.) Cost Them More Money

    #2 Drives down their profit margin, hopefully enough to make selling ffxi gil unprofitable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liriel View Post
    This game was always designed to be a grindfest. You must not have been around back near release. It took months of hard work just to get anywhere in level and even longer to get good gear. Abyssea has really done nothing but make everything so easy that you can go in blindfolded and never even learn what your job is even about. I'm glad they did this. Means people might actually venture out away from abyssea to earn gil and learn how to play.
    Just because it's been a grindfest from the beginning doesn't mean that it is GOOD that the game remains a grindfest. And acting like an elitist isn't making your argument any stronger.

    Quote Originally Posted by Liriel View Post
    I'm ending the argument here, because any real player knows that this is a change that should have happened years ago, or never have been started in the beginning. SE isn't depriving players of gil. There's many other ways to earn it. Sure it might take longer, but hey, that's what this game has always been about, slow steady progress so that you know what you're doing, and in most cases, learn how to act as part of a party and actually interact with other people. You wanna solo/low man farm something? Go play a console game by yourself or with a few friends.
    1.) >implying that people who used chocobo blinkers aren't "real players"
    I've got 4 million cruor, why the hell shouldn't I use it for gil? Does that mean I suck? I guess it means I suck.
    2.) I agree that if it was going to happen, it should have happened a long time ago. But it just seems stupid to do it over a year after its introduction.
    3.) Regarding the "learning how to play in a party"
    a.) I must have missed the memo where I can one-man everything in Abyssea. Most inexperienced players DO participate in parties. The game dynamic is not that much different than the rest of the game's events', besides Voidwatch perhaps. It's just that you can do Abyssea with less people.
    b.) Nowadays, most cruor comes from Voidwatch (sans RMT).
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    I'm not too broken up over this except for one concern which is how this will affect the popularity of Voidwatch. Twist my arm and I'd go participate in a VW fight for something I didn't really need assuming I could use the XP or cruor. Well, then I capped my merits again but I could still drag myself to help for the cruor.

    Take away the cruor and I really just do not want to do the content anymore. I'm sure there are others (many others) who feel the same way.

    In light of this update, the Kupofried's Corundum update seems even more meaningless.
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    /rant begin: So now that the RMT can't do that stuff to make gil the rest of us might as well get ready for them to clog up dyna and other zones to make their gil? *sigh* guess that means the good decent places to farm currency for relics will be taken by them while the rest of us are sol on those spots. So now what? What will be their next nerf? Crour/ exp gain from Voidwatch nms or completely nerf all jobs? /rant end
    I am though happy they worked on the stuff that needed fixing though but other then that this maintenance kinda blows.
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    Never took advantage of this but what are we suppose to do with cruor now if we have millions of it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    Never took advantage of this but what are we suppose to do with cruor now if we have millions of it?
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    Player Ryce's Avatar
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    man ><

    I did my first ever cruor > blinker > gil conversion this past weekend. Was really looking forward to turning some of that unused cruor into gear and crafting materials. But eff' the economy, AMIRITE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    Never took advantage of this but what are we suppose to do with cruor now if we have millions of it?
    Finally upgrade those mage atmacites and brew everything.
    everything
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