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    Player Luvbunny's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liriel View Post
    SE has been combating RMTs for years. This is about the only way to shut them down - take away their means of making a lot of gil in a short amount of time. RMTs destroy the economy of any game, making it more and more difficult for legit players to afford gear. Take away their ability to make a ton of gil, and it will force prices down to a more reasonable level. Not to mention RMT is actually illegal in itself. By law, SE has to take action against it.
    OK... I am a bit confused, who buys gil anymore nowadays. Before the update, making gil is so freakingly easy that you do not even need to buy gil, since it is overflowing right and left. Now they are killing EVERYONE in the game to the point that casual players will have to buy gil to even have a chance. I mean seriously, after TWO WHOLE YEARS, they finally did this????? A lot of the good gears are actually rare/ex, most you cannot just bot farm them but have to have a full alliance to be able to get them to drop. Dynamis currency is soloable. Gil was never a problem for two whole years since Abyssea arrived. Why now??? This is beyond retarded. What RMT are they worrying about exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liriel View Post
    This game was always designed to be a grindfest. You must not have been around back near release. It took months of hard work just to get anywhere in level and even longer to get good gear. Abyssea has really done nothing but make everything so easy that you can go in blindfolded and never even learn what your job is even about. I'm glad they did this. Means people might actually venture out away from abyssea to earn gil and learn how to play.

    I'm ending the argument here, because any real player knows that this is a change that should have happened years ago, or never have been started in the beginning. SE isn't depriving players of gil. There's many other ways to earn it. Sure it might take longer, but hey, that's what this game has always been about, slow steady progress so that you know what you're doing, and in most cases, learn how to act as part of a party and actually interact with other people. You wanna solo/low man farm something? Go play a console game by yourself or with a few friends.
    I wish the player base I actually play in was the same one in your dreams.
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    Player svengalis's Avatar
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    Never took advantage of this but what are we suppose to do with cruor now if we have millions of it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    Never took advantage of this but what are we suppose to do with cruor now if we have millions of it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    Never took advantage of this but what are we suppose to do with cruor now if we have millions of it?
    Finally upgrade those mage atmacites and brew everything.
    everything
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    Player Khajit's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liriel View Post
    This game was always designed to be a grindfest. You must not have been around back near release. It took months of hard work just to get anywhere in level and even longer to get good gear. Abyssea has really done nothing but make everything so easy that you can go in blindfolded and never even learn what your job is even about. I'm glad they did this. Means people might actually venture out away from abyssea to earn gil and learn how to play.

    I'm ending the argument here, because any real player knows that this is a change that should have happened years ago, or never have been started in the beginning. SE isn't depriving players of gil. There's many other ways to earn it. Sure it might take longer, but hey, that's what this game has always been about, slow steady progress so that you know what you're doing, and in most cases, learn how to act as part of a party and actually interact with other people. You wanna solo/low man farm something? Go play a console game by yourself or with a few friends.
    I was around when it was a grindfest which is exactly why I know that trying to return the game to a grindfest only results in a steaming pile of shit. The game was hemorrhaging players and the only reason that stopped was because it stopped being a grindfest. When the level 99 cap announcement came out the first thing people thought was that there's no way they can tolerate having to have exp pts long enough to reach it.

    You seem to be of the impression that the game used to be hard because you had to grind. It wasn't. People were still just as stupid then as they are now and figuring out how to do a job isn't rocket science. Do you think put on haste, wear good weapon is a difficult concept? Do you think macro swaps are designed like some sort of Gordian knot? If a person is too stupid to understand their job it's because they were stupid. not because the job was magically difficult. By the time you're lv 10 you should already get the concept of engaging and using a ws or using magic.
    Thinking that doing something most noobs in valkurm were taught back in the day makes you special is ridiculous.
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    Last edited by Khajit; 10-23-2012 at 05:12 AM.

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    Player DaBackpack's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liriel View Post
    This game was always designed to be a grindfest. You must not have been around back near release. It took months of hard work just to get anywhere in level and even longer to get good gear. Abyssea has really done nothing but make everything so easy that you can go in blindfolded and never even learn what your job is even about. I'm glad they did this. Means people might actually venture out away from abyssea to earn gil and learn how to play.
    Just because it's been a grindfest from the beginning doesn't mean that it is GOOD that the game remains a grindfest. And acting like an elitist isn't making your argument any stronger.

    Quote Originally Posted by Liriel View Post
    I'm ending the argument here, because any real player knows that this is a change that should have happened years ago, or never have been started in the beginning. SE isn't depriving players of gil. There's many other ways to earn it. Sure it might take longer, but hey, that's what this game has always been about, slow steady progress so that you know what you're doing, and in most cases, learn how to act as part of a party and actually interact with other people. You wanna solo/low man farm something? Go play a console game by yourself or with a few friends.
    1.) >implying that people who used chocobo blinkers aren't "real players"
    I've got 4 million cruor, why the hell shouldn't I use it for gil? Does that mean I suck? I guess it means I suck.
    2.) I agree that if it was going to happen, it should have happened a long time ago. But it just seems stupid to do it over a year after its introduction.
    3.) Regarding the "learning how to play in a party"
    a.) I must have missed the memo where I can one-man everything in Abyssea. Most inexperienced players DO participate in parties. The game dynamic is not that much different than the rest of the game's events', besides Voidwatch perhaps. It's just that you can do Abyssea with less people.
    b.) Nowadays, most cruor comes from Voidwatch (sans RMT).
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