Pet th - Just hear me out

[Caketime]

ouch....try again.

Ball's still in your court, you're the one who won't admit that you're just as greedy as everyone else. You also stooped to attacking me personally in an attempt to justify your argument.

[Nawesemo]

Ball's still in your court, you're the one who won't admit that you're just as greedy as everyone else. You also stooped to attacking me personally in an attempt to justify your argument.

Lol,.. someone pee in your cornflakes this morning?

[Caketime]

Funny how all you've got is tired one liners, personal attacks and no actual argument other than you somehow get less drops if Yuly can proc TH. You keep bringing up Dyna farming when most of us are talking about farming ingredients for our tools because we're one of the most consumable dependant jobs in the game, or doing other things that have nothing to do with Relics. The discussion keeps coming back to Dyna because you're furious that BST can farm currency faster than you, and your entire reasoning hinges on fairness, yet you are clearly only resentful because you want the game to be more fair to you over others.

[Nawesemo]

Funny how all you've got is tired one liners, personal attacks and no actual argument other than you somehow get less drops if Yuly can proc TH. You keep bringing up Dyna farming when most of us are talking about farming ingredients for our tools because we're one of the most consumable dependant jobs in the game, or doing other things that have nothing to do with Relics. The discussion keeps coming back to Dyna because you're furious that BST can farm currency faster than you, and your entire reasoning hinges on fairness, yet you are clearly only resentful because you want the game to be more fair to you over others.

Balance grasshopper, balance.

BTW, I think you don't know what your arguing for/against. I am anti more bst pet thf. You in favor. I am opposed because well, yall bst are insisting bst farm currency well, and if that's the case, adding more thf will only enhance that and any other farming, without the bst needing to /thf, and not giving up anything, like all other jobs do to gain the thf 3. It is not something i agree with. You... Oppose my reasoning, fair enough, but I'll be here all day telling you that its as silly as a blm wanting thf 3 added to thunder 5.

[Caketime]

Who said anything about TH3 added to Thunder V other than you? Also, I never insisted anything, you have. Additionally, if you think I'm not giving up anythng to get TH you're dead wrong, I give up lots of kill speed and have to load up an entirely different gear set to make Falcorr half way decent at killing things. Sure, I could be a lazy douche and just /fight and walk away, but that isn't how I play. I poured weeks of my time into my TP offhand axe and I'm currently building a Guttler to ehance my melee even further. I wear millions of gil worth of equipment just so my pets kill at a decently fast rate, and you're saying I sacrifice nothing? You don't play my job, and you don't know me, so don't even try to say I don't have to make sacrifices to be efficient, because I and every other BST worth their salt know damn well it's not about pressing Fight and Reward occasionally then laughing all the way to the bank. That's the misconception that ignorant people bring to the forums when they're mad.

[FrankReynolds]

They'd be in there regardless wait for it.... becuase it's easy.

Wrong. There are very few people who are gonna just do dynamis forever just because they can. Most people have a limit to how much they can play every day and only do any given event until they don't have to any more. If your theory were correct, Dynamis would be insanely crowded 24/7 and they would have to instance it or add new zones. It's not because a lot of people have other things they would rather do than just grind for gil. There's something like 2,000 people on a server. If they all did dynamis every day "just because", the zones would be maxed out.

An event you keep asking for, and I'm telling you it would be everything, afk bst , with their pets chilling in beez in latheine, bst on elements in sky, bst on chigos in aut urgan...bst everywhere,.....,

OMG What if the BSTS dominate all the Bees in lathein!!!!!???? lol seriously not gonna happen. The fact remains that even with TH% on bst, there are still more efficient ways to farm things any time that you aren't solo. Which means that things will stay exactly the same. People who have to solo will go bst (because they were gonna do that anyways) and people who have a friend(s) with them will go on different jobs that are more efficient.

If it weren't for dynamis proc system causing people to fight over mobs, most people would have never even noticed that BST got TH3 in the first place. That's how little of an effect that it has on other peoples lives outside the BST community.

[Nawesemo]

Who said anything about TH3 added to Thunder V other than you? Also, I never insisted anything, you have. Additionally, if you think I'm not giving up anythng to get TH you're dead wrong, I give up lots of kill speed and have to load up an entirely different gear set to make Falcorr half way decent at killing things. Sure, I could be a lazy douche and just /fight and walk away, but that isn't how I play. I poured weeks of my time into my TP offhand axe and I'm currently building a Guttler to ehance my melee even further. I wear millions of gil worth of equipment just so my pets kill at a decently fast rate, and you're saying I sacrifice nothing? You don't play my job, and you don't know me, so don't even try to say I don't have to make sacrifices to be efficient, because I and every other BST worth their salt know damn well it's not about pressing Fight and Reward occasionally then laughing all the way to the bank. That's the misconception that ignorant people bring to the forums when they're mad.

but you would still retain your choice of /sub, everyone else would need to /thf, to get what your advocating, ...bst would get it as part of the main job and not sacrifice their choice of sub. Pretending like your choice of gear is giving up something is goofy, mages change gear to enhance their spells.... They're giving something up to make their spells more potent? No.... But they do to gain thf 3, their sub. Bst has thf traits on yuly, and thats good enough, too much to a capable job in my opinion. Wanting thf 3 added to yuly is a lot like a blm wanting it added to thunder 5. Kinda goofy.

[Zagen]

I am anti more bst pet thf.

Why?

I mean you must have a reason, and it can't be Dynamis because even post nerf while BST gets less coins it's still there in Dynamis, even if there was no TH it would still be there because of how easy it is to suck and still do well when your pet does the majority of the work.

It can't be farming craft items because really where's the competition there? I mean you'd be comparing TH3 vs. TH3+ from THF main (and if you're /THF instead of THF/ to farm you're doing it wrong).

Is it because you're jealous a BST can solo just about any Abyssea NM? This is possible except BST has at best 3 spells proc options from /WHM, /SCH, /BLM, or /NIN. So really it's an inferior option when considering efficiency of !! vs. TH in abyssea for +1/+2 items. It also can't cover weapon skills for blue like MNK.

Is it because, if the pet had TH3 it would be just as useful in Voidwatch as a THF main? Does pet TH even boost drops like TH from THF?

Keep in mind I'm not for or against increasing TH, I couldn't care less about it. I'm just wondering why you're so adamant about it when I just can't see a good reason to be against it.

[Nawesemo]

Wrong. There are very few people who are gonna just do dynamis forever just because they can. Most people have a limit to how much they can play every day and only do any given event until they don't have to any more. If your theory were correct, Dynamis would be insanely crowded 24/7 and they would have to instance it or add new zones. It's not because a lot of people have other things they would rather do than just grind for gil. There's something like 2,000 people on a server. If they all did dynamis every day "just because", the zones would be maxed out.



OMG What if the BSTS dominate all the Bees in lathein!!!!!???? lol seriously not gonna happen. The fact remains that even with TH% on bst, there are still more efficient ways to farm things any time that you aren't solo. Which means that things will stay exactly the same. People who have to solo will go bst (because they were gonna do that anyways) and people who have a friend(s) with them will go on different jobs that are more efficient.

Don't look now, your starting to agree with me.

[Nawesemo]

Why?

I mean you must have a reason, and it can't be Dynamis because even post nerf while BST gets less coins it's still there in Dynamis, even if there was no TH it would still be there because of how easy it is to suck and still do well when your pet does the majority of the work.

It can't be farming craft items because really where's the competition there? I mean you'd be comparing TH3 vs. TH3+ from THF main (and if you're /THF instead of THF/ to farm you're doing it wrong).

Is it because you're jealous a BST can solo just about any Abyssea NM? This is possible except BST has at best 3 spells proc options from /WHM, /SCH, /BLM, or /NIN. So really it's an inferior option when considering efficiency of !! vs. TH in abyssea for +1/+2 items. It also can't cover weapon skills for blue like MNK.

Is it because, if the pet had TH3 it would be just as useful in Voidwatch as a THF main? Does pet TH even boost drops like TH from THF?

Keep in mind I'm not for or against increasing TH, I couldn't care less about it. I'm just wondering why you're so adamant about it when I just can't see a good reason to be against it.

Why? Because they don't need it.