Pet th - Just hear me out

[Nawesemo]

I've built 2 relics (apoc mine, mandau my friend's), and along the way my friend and I tried various combinations. That I can recall some where:

BLU + THF
NIN + THF
NIN + DNC
THF + RDM
BST + BST (oddly enough netted less than solo, though probably cuz we didn't split up and use different camps)
DNC + THF (with and without subs)
DNC + NIN

Probably some I'm forgetting but you get the point. We compared all our duo runs to our solo BST runs. Why? Because our BST runs have been the benchmark to beat, heck I even compared my BLU/DNC solo runs which were better than my BST solos until my gear improved on BST. All our tests were post pet TH nerf.

The biggest reason we duoed was because it was more fun and allowed us to play more aggressively than BST/DNC solo not because it led to more coins. Until we started messing with DNC/00 + THF duo nothing compared to BST/DNC numbers solo, we still duoed because it was less boring and usually more amusing. You know that friendship and sharing crap you're talking about.

If you want safer then go BLU/DNC, well if you know how to play the job, as it isn't idiot/gimp proof like BST (this is general statement before you think I'm talking about you specifically and not the job). 1 shot TE stats, Light + Dark sleeps, ability to zerg a monster independent of JA timers, Curing from Waltz, MP, or WS. Oh and BLU/DNC can have TH2 since you think it matters that much.

Tentatively, I agree with everything here.

[Komori]

DNC/00 Does not equal an instant relic btw, white procs are extremely rare. I've tried DNC/00 before with a friend and it can potentially net you more but that's potentially, I personally got unlucky and never got it to proc but I've heard from others you have. But I'd rather have consistent high progression going on my BLU/DNC since I know have Almace and duoing Dynamis with my THF friend.

[Caketime]

In that segment the arguement is efficiency, and sharing, gimmie a dnc/00 a thf/dnc, and they smoke the poor solo bst. Duo bst... Etc.. dnc/00 rains procs....procs make currency drop.

It's the sharing part people can't handle, and driving force behind the desire to get a thf 3 pet. (You know, so the bst dont have to need someone else), and that is funny, considering its bsts crying in the past about not being included. Its an emo job in a otherwise peach world.

I think it's funny that you've been repeating that BST just doesn't want to share for like 14 pages, but you still won't acknowledge what I pointed out the other day. You can't possibly try and claim that BST is just greedy and emo and don't want to share while at the same time trying to paint a picture that shows all other players living in harmony because it isn't true. Look at how eagerly you're posting against the idea of Yuly procing TH3.

Before you go and try to say I need to go make friends or whatever, I'd like to point out that you don't know me or my friends, who I play with or what I do. I won't imply anything about you or your social life to try and prove my argument, so please don't do that to me.

[Nawesemo]

It isn't because I am greedy, it's because all of us are greedy, we're a bunch of nerds chasing shinies like magpies with a 9 to 5.

ouch....try again.

[Nawesemo]

Are you high?

darn... ...

[Nawesemo]

I think it's funny that you've been repeating that BST just doesn't want to share for like 14 pages, but you still won't acknowledge what I pointed out the other day. You can't possibly try and claim that BST is just greedy and emo and don't want to share while at the same time trying to paint a picture that shows all other players living in harmony because it isn't true. Look at how eagerly you're posting against the idea of Yuly procing TH3.

Before you go and try to say I need to go make friends or whatever, I'd like to point out that you don't know me or my friends, who I play with or what I do. I won't imply anything about you or your social life to try and prove my argument, so please don't do that to me.

lol you're kinda funny... almost but not. thank you for the giggle though.

[Nawesemo]

DNC/00 Does not equal an instant relic btw, white procs are extremely rare. I've tried DNC/00 before with a friend and it can potentially net you more but that's potentially, I personally got unlucky and never got it to proc but I've heard from others you have. But I'd rather have consistent high progression going on my BLU/DNC since I know have Almace and duoing Dynamis with my THF friend.

DNC/00 Does not equal an instant relic btw

O.o Who said that? Did I say that? ... But now that you mention it, it certainly helps

white procs are extremely rare.

Extremely... Like Super-duper? No... They’re common if you go dnc/00 (kind of the point yeah?).. Next part explains a bit....

I personally got unlucky

and I completely understand this next part...

But I'd rather have consistent high progression going on my BLU/DNC

If it works for you I'm not going to knock it, I made noise on blm, and blm just sucks for dynamis, 93 currency /blush (hey it was blm) (sleep dia aspir spam ftw)

duoing Dynamis with my THF friend

Fun hu? Don't go no where without your Thf Friend.

[Lollerblades]

They took it off BST for a reason , they don't have to tell us why they did it ... All this whinging and moaning won't get it you back anytime soon

That being said I haven't got a problem with BST in namis , if it's overcrowded use your brains and move to a different pop area ...

[Komori]

They took it off thanks to the rest of the playerbase whining about it. And you white proc how many times if lucky with Dancer with sub taken down? 2 times at the luckiest of times and often times none or just once per entry? I can solo 200+ as easily on BLU as I could back on BST and on top of that, proc a mob at any point of the day so I could honestly bypass having to keep switching around mobs.

But it's not really a point of which job does the best in Dynamis. Everyone has their choice of what job they want to play, people should be able to play Beastmaster when they want to, which is a solo job. It can work well in groups if such a group allows them but people typically jump on it when they don't want to be bothered waiting on someone else. So it shouldn't have to boil down to "Bring a THF friend" for every situation, period.

[FrankReynolds]

SO for a recap here...

1) TH3 nerf made BSTs annoyed and did nothing for other jobs
2) Farming with DNC/000 and another character as a duo yields better profits than soloing on BST (irrelevant)
3) No one has a valid reason for removing TH3 from BST pets other than "Cuz I just don't like it"