Can the Devs allow Dual Wielding Shields?

[Yokai]

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Even if you disagree about the 'good idea gone terribly wrong' point, the material effect is that it becomes exceedingly unlikely the dev team would provide it any serious consideration. What I want to do here is help you to maximize the likelihood of the dev team seriously considering adding these to the game.

Unfortunately that means in this case the awesome needs to be toned down to be balanced with existing equipment, both weapons and shields. It can't be better than primary comparable weapons because it is not only a weapon, it is also a shield. It can't be better than existing shields because it is not only a shield, it is also a weapon.

This is the curse of the Hybrid - it cannot be better than a specialist, yet it must still be good enough to use.

Right now, based on the Young Shell and Young Shell +1, your Battle Shields make Swords worthless and make normal Shields worthless. No way would a Paladin use anything else. A Warrior MIGHT use an Axe instead, but probably not.

[kingfury]

Fun side note: you can't edit existing posts on the mobile version of the forum site.

Even if you disagree about the 'good idea gone terribly wrong' point, the material effect is that it becomes exceedingly unlikely the dev team would provide it any serious consideration. What I want to do here is help you to maximize the likelihood of the dev team seriously considering adding these to the game.

Unfortunately that means in this case the awesome needs to be toned down to be balanced with existing equipment, both weapons and shields. It can't be better than primary comparable weapons because it is not only a weapon, it is also a shield. It can't be better than existing shields because it is not only a shield, it is also a weapon.

This is the curse of the Hybrid - it cannot be better than a specialist, yet it must still be good enough to use.

Right now, based on the Young Shell and Young Shell +1, your Battle Shields make Swords worthless and make normal Shields worthless. No way would a Paladin use anything else. A Warrior MIGHT use an Axe instead, but probably not.

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You're correct about comparing them to our current weapons to get some footing on how balanced they would be for sure, but I was referring to the difficulty of fairly comparing this weapon to a sword, axe, or a standard shield based on it's unique niche functionality that combines two uses that makes it an obvious better candidate to tank with. It's true that new PLDs would take at look at the two options starting out:

• 1.(Sword + Standard Shield) or 2.(Battle Shield + Standard Shield)

They would be more inclined to choose the more defensive option since it would make more sense for a job that's sole purpose is defending. Just because this is true though, doesn't mean that it's a negative fact in a PLDs case since their current weapon set up(Sword + Standard Shield) can't compete damage wise in the games current state at high level content. This weapon would not phase out Swords for every other job, but it would offer a very real contender for a PLDs main weapon choice when considering being an effective tank. Now does that mean that PLDs would never choose to use a sword again should this weapon be introduced? I would say it would be based on the player's play style and battle situation since Swords would still have unique weapon skills that could be helpful against certain types of monsters. That, and the option to use a Sword + Battle Shield would still be a unique and possibly effective NEW option available to PLDs.

As it stands, a PLD has very few real options to choose from in terms of altering their current fate, where as a WAR has a handful of Damage Dealing options to alternate through. A WAR can still choose to use Axes if they wanted to deal damage since it was designed to do so (which was the valid choice a few years ago), but as the game has changed and new options become available, a WAR can choose another option like a Great Axe to deal damage with. Unfortunately, a PLD can't make the same choices. That's what this concept is at the foundation, another option.

I really appreciate the thought and consideration everyone here has put into shooting as many holes into this concept and questions for the sole reason of trying to help make it a serious concept to add to this great game, so know that all of your great detailed comparison data is very welcome Thanks