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    And Blu can't spam their entire list of spells having instead to pick and choose the ones hes going to use, i feel they are overpowered, and all that don't get me started on that, if rdm gets more melee gear why pick any other job, everyone could just be avesta and solo everything.... Rdm is fine does fine and should be as you say ok at a lot of things, great at none, but slow 2 etc.... It is still what it was ment to be. Unique.

    Edit: and that makes a lil sense even.... Blu more physically gifted, rdm more magic.... Still not magey enough for me but what ever, Rdms playing with swords.... Meh... Have at it.
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    Last edited by Nawesemo; 08-25-2012 at 06:21 AM.
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    Demon you can't win. Nawes is a troll and is just trying to stir up more sh!t. We'll add em to our ignore list and sometime next month another one will appear to take his place.

    Their all just mules from various posters who want to stir the pot for fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

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    pft... no one else is asking for anything less it doesn't mean we're going to get it. this is goofy given rdm's history as the defacto uber solo job, Your trolling of my opinion that *cough I pay for just like you, is kind of ignorant, ignore me if you like but my opinion still stands. Rdm is fine and dandy in the melee department, focus on you know, being more magey with your abilities given to you or change jobs.
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    In our wake will be smoke fire and burnt charred remains of those that have fell before us, We will not remember their names, as they are no more, the next challenge, the next horizon is what we strive for and Demand it be met with Ferocity, We Grin at the Possibility of death, Fear no Mob that walks Vana'diel or it's Realms, there is no tomorrow, there is only now, For pride, for honor, for Glory We are The Knights of Pegasus.

  4. 08-25-2012 03:34 PM
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    Done with dealing with annoying people, suffice it to say, RDMs are Hybrids, not mages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nawesemo View Post
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    Listen closely and you can hear the sound of thousands of hands slamming into their owners faces.

    and the best non-Relic Dagger WS for RDM as well
    *BUZZER NOISE*: Wrong - Best Non-Relic Dagger WS for RDM is Exenterator, Which, Has a 100% AGI Mod, and that body is sexy as hell for it. Everything else though, i tend to agree.

    RDM Is a hybrid job, Its just its melee side has been ignored by Square Enix to some extent... However you do have to remember Temper, which at best, Can offer 20% Double Attack! So in that reality, Its really way more Mage-oriented these days, Its simply how it is. The job has potential to be a hybrid, But it would need more help. Still, You must consider it does have some pretty decent potential, however, Like most if not all other Hybrid jobs, It will never truly excel at either side of its skill set, Mage or Melee.

    Most Hybrid jobs are kinda boned because of how FFXI works, Hybrids aren't really needed or wanted. SCH and DNC Fail because of this reason.. SCH being a Hybrid BLM/WHM, and DNC Being a Hybrid Buffer/DD, Both fail pretty hard because neither side of their benefits really is worthwehile... SCH just has a place in our hearts cause of Embrava.

    COR, However, is a Hybrid Buffer/DD, So it can be done... with the right help.

    Long story short, as it stands now, RDM is really in a very sad state, But it can at least put both of its mediocre Qualities to use whenever possible (Mage and Melee Side)... Which is rarely, but still, a good player could easily maintain his Mage duties, and Melee duties, in something like Dynamis... If my brother comes RDM (Relic Trials, Or something), I have him come /DNC, his Requiscat's can easily hit 2k+ Even on some of the DC mobs we fight, It can be good if done right, Hell my SMN (And i have Screenshots here in the Shattersoul Thread) can hit 2.2k~3k+ Shattersouls, even /DNC.

    Mages, Red mage specifically to this argument, will never reach the DPS and raw damage output of a real DD, But they can contribute, as long as there's no extreme factors (Breakga, Damaging AoEs you want to avoid, etc) - They can effectively help Make the big thing Die quicker, or in places like Dynamis, Help proc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Breakga
    Actually 1 advantage to RDM. I will say that Resist Petrify does help at times, many times when I have been a RDM/NIN DD on Qilin I have taken Breakga and just brushed it off so I can continue beating the NM down while everyone else is standing around!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Actually 1 advantage to RDM. I will say that Resist Petrify does help at times, many times when I have been a RDM/NIN DD on Qilin I have taken Breakga and just brushed it off so I can continue beating the NM down while everyone else is standing around!
    thats why i use a Fool's during Qilin, makes me sleep and break proof
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akihiko_Matsui
    This goes the same for extremely difficult content. (Naturally it’s not easy since it’s extremely difficult…)
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    as long as you don’t have severely bad luck.

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    Yah.. When i fight Qilin, I tend to keep Fools up unless i know im going to be the main tank (Which i avoid at all costs).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Actually 1 advantage to RDM. I will say that Resist Petrify does help at times, many times when I have been a RDM/NIN DD on Qilin I have taken Breakga and just brushed it off so I can continue beating the NM down while everyone else is standing around!
    People let DD rdms in, but leave pup and bst on the curb? There's something fundamentally wrong about that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theytak View Post
    People let DD rdms in, but leave pup and bst on the curb? There's something fundamentally wrong about that...
    It's called a linkshell/friends, obviously shout parties wont unless they're struggling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theytak View Post
    People let DD rdms in, but leave pup and bst on the curb? There's something fundamentally wrong about that...
    I see PUPs let in to DD in Qilin often enough, not all VWNMs but I have seen in quite a few so long as they have Emp & good gear to go with it. BST I don't play much, or know very well on a damage scale so I will not bother trying to guess on that one, but I admit they are rare to see on anything.
    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    It's called a linkshell/friends, obviously shout parties wont unless they're struggling.
    Mostly correct. When LS members do a VW party, or friends, I normally get to come RDM, however it is not all to uncommon that when I ask to come RDM/NIN for VW, particularly Zilart/Jeuno T3, that I am allowed to go. Most people who know me on Phoenix know I'm a good RDM, Ill back off and do enfeebling procs if they pop up, Ill still proc sword and dagger, and that I can still do good damage.
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