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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Take your false dilemmas elsewhere. To a forum where the user base is younger than 15 years on average, perhaps. Maybe they would fall for it.
    I found it funny because its likely just changing a few numbers around in the code at that. Couldn't possibly take them even a day to do this, probably not even a few hours at that. If these kind of changes make expansions and all that get pushed back even a week, there is a problem with how a company is doing things.
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    Yes, that was more or less my point .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    Greetings,

    As mentioned, the price of Flame Geodes is comparatively quite high due to its popularity for creating items such as Flame Gems/Pyrosoul Rings and completing Magian Trials.

    Looking at weather frequency versus cost, dark and light weather is also rare, yet the price of these geodes are not very expensive. Also, there isn't a difference between the rate of obtaining Snow and Flame geodes that would cause a difference of 80x the cost.

    With that said, increasing the drop rate for these would only be for convenience purposes. If you have any specific examples as to how Flame Geodes drop rates are not balanced versus other elements, please let us know and we can submit them for consideration.
    How can you say this with a straight face? Here's the average price on Leviathan for magian trial items for the most popular trials:

    Strength (fire)
    Flame Geode: 70k
    Ifritite: 1k

    Evasion (wind) <- note that most people make 2 of these for dual wielding jobs (THF, NIN, DNC)
    Breeze Geode: 20k
    Garudite: 20k

    Are you seriously trying to imply that the Goldsmiths are screwing over people who are working on fire trials? If that's the case, maybe something should be done to alleviate this. However, I think whoever gave you this information is full of shit.

    As others have noted, the Cure Potency trial is the only light trial being done (Light Geodes 10-20k, Carbites 1k), and only crazy people like myself who are serious about their mage jobs do the dark damage and/or accuracy trials (I did both, 1k for each item). As it stands now, I can't justify finishing off the fire damage staff I started before I took a break last year because the cost of obtaining geodes just isn't worth it, considering how infrequently I focus on using fire spells.
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    In the year that I was gone, SCH went from a job no one wanted to a job that gets to use their 2-hour and go sit in the corner. I guess that's progress?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarly View Post
    I hope SE neglects the rest of the game JUST TO PLEASE a bunch of casual failures who can't be assed to farm the gil for geodes. SOA? Push that back to 2020 please. The UI update? PLEASE don't even give it to us, just trash that idea.

    What's more important here is making flame geodes for lazy people!
    A change would take the developers no more then 15 mins to introduce. So big fail on your part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Yes, that was more or less my point .
    Sorry :x seemed more like a post instead of a post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Howdy,

    Sorry I would like to correct what was posted slightly (edited previous post, was my error!). It is not that case that light and dark weather are rarer than fire weather, but it is the case that they are rare weather occurrences as well, yet the prices for those respective geodes are not expensive like that of Flame Geodes.

    Also, as noted in the thread already, geodes also drop on the respective elemental day and the chance for them to drop on each day is balanced.

    With that said, please continue to give your feedback and we will be sure to pass it on. Sorry for the mix up!
    So by balanced, then one would assumed that if one were to farm in a single zone spreading over several in-game day without any weather occurance, then one should get pretty much the SAME EXACT NUMBER of different elemental geodes. But the fact remains that this isn't necesary the case at all.

    Please give us the 'Balanced Drop Rate' of these geodes in the same exact zone, the same exact mobs without any weather occurrance. Because frankly, I dont think ANYONE posting in here would buy the whole 'BALANCED' agrument at all.
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    Get on Thief, go to Abyssea on firesday, put on RR Omnipotent and GH atma and fight some easy mobs... it's really not _that_ hard to get geodes... of any kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivivivi View Post
    Get on Thief, go to Abyssea on firesday, put on RR Omnipotent and GH atma and fight some easy mobs... it's really not _that_ hard to get geodes... of any kind.
    When I kill on firesday I will kill about 50+ mobs in abyessa and average about 1 flame geode. Yet, I can farm during a 10 minute window of weather and walk out with 5 geodes in that 10 minutes. So for a weapon that is 55 hours of farming for the needed supply of flame geodes to finish a weapon. It isn't "hard" but it is not acceptable especially considering SE worships the God of Balance.
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    Flame geodes dont need higher droprate, only thing what could be usefull would be more fire weather in the zones, this would benefit the trials itself and also those who want to farm their geodes. But seriously... this whole thread is so useless... thats basic economy why flame geodes are so pricy. Fire weapons and Pyrosoulrings are all high in demand, so price is high. Live with it. If you want a strong magian weapon, work for it and dont expect it to fall in your hands in 5 min.

    Dev/Community team should just ignore QQ-threads like this.

    if you want to farm flame geodes farm them outside abyssea on fireday in a zone where no weather is forcasted killing low EP mobs. This way you wont get any avatites... it might take some days, but you get it done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindi View Post
    Flame geodes dont need higher droprate, only thing what could be usefull would be more fire weather in the zones, this would benefit the trials itself and also those who want to farm their geodes. But seriously... this whole thread is so useless... thats basic economy why flame geodes are so pricy. Fire weapons and Pyrosoulrings are all high in demand, so price is high. Live with it. If you want a strong magian weapon, work for it and dont expect it to fall in your hands in 5 min.

    Dev/Community team should just ignore QQ-threads like this.

    if you want to farm flame geodes farm them outside abyssea on fireday in a zone where no weather is forcasted killing low EP mobs. This way you wont get any avatites... it might take some days, but you get it done.

    So with these weapons tailored to casual players, and casual players maybe only able to play an hour here and there, you find it ok to take 2 months to farm the items? not very casual now. Also, considering "Balance" I paid about 300k to upgrade my fire weapon, new people start playing, they need to pay 4 million. How is that "Balance"

    Face it, SE were not smart to use geodes as crafting items and people like you need a reality check to realize there are people in this world that actually have priorities that are not game related.
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