The Flame Geode Thread...... Again.

[Connavarr]

I hope SE neglects the rest of the game JUST TO PLEASE a bunch of casual failures who can't be assed to farm the gil for geodes. SOA? Push that back to 2020 please. The UI update? PLEASE don't even give it to us, just trash that idea.

What's more important here is making flame geodes for lazy people!

Making a STR Magian actually shows that a player isn't lazy since, ya know, they can only really do it on Firesdays. Meaning, they're not getting the +5 weather bonus.

Also, tweaking the drop rates and/or fire weather is just sooooo much work, right?

[Tile]

With that said, increasing the drop rate for these would only be for convenience purposes. If you have any specific examples as to how Flame Geodes drop rates are not balanced versus other elements, please let us know and we can submit them for consideration.

Don't know if its exactly what your asking but I just spent a whole day IRL farming the Smithy's Torque in Ifrit's Cauldron. An active volcano yet when I left the only geodes was missing was Flame. and the one I had the most of was Aqua. this is because it was raining about 50% of the time I spent in the zone. and for some reason double rain beats fires day. its an Active volcano why is this happening?

[Yarly]

I think you mean employed ppl with friends and family outside of game who look at their inventory and wonder why they have so many of 7 types of geodes and so little of 1, not to mention the one they need, when they are mostly fighting on that day/weather.

Oh wait sorry. Voices from the real world can be scary. My bad.

Are you trying to imply that I'm unemployed or that employed people don't have time to play FFXI in ways they don't want to play it? I happen to be both a university student and a part of the workforce. That really doesn't leave much time for FFXI for me, probably less time than you have, if you even have a job.

Making gil is a part of the game, sorry if that doesn't suit your play style but that's almost as stupid as buying a game for the mac and trying to run it on your PC or vice-versa. Making 4million gil really only takes about 4-5 hours of your time and you can login to do it whenever your life allows you to.

Join a cruor party or make one yourself (since this is an MMORPG and interaction with other players is unavoidable) and then turn the cruor into gil. Then buy the geodes. It would have taken you much longer than that to farm all the flame geodes yourself even IF SE decided to add perpetual fire weather in every zone in the game.

If you don't like farming for gil, I'm sure you know how else to get gil fairly quickly since you seem to be siding with the group of people who are employed.

Insulting people to get your point across is very pathetic and makes you look like an idiot when you find out that I didn't just call people lazy to insult them.

[Kristal]

Looking at weather frequency versus cost, dark and light weather is also rare, yet the price of these geodes are not very expensive. Also, there isn't a difference between the rate of obtaining Snow and Flame geodes that would cause a difference of 80x the cost.

With that said, increasing the drop rate for these would only be for convenience purposes. If you have any specific examples as to how Flame Geodes drop rates are not balanced versus other elements, please let us know and we can submit them for consideration.

The RATE of obtaining geodes is the same for each geode, DURING THE RIGHT CONDITIONS. But those right conditions are NOT the same for each geode. Snow Geodes can be gotten in areas with 95% blizzards over the year, while Flame Geodes aren't even hitting 5%. So the rate isn't the issue, it's the conditions for that rate to occur.

What about changing the weather in Ru'Aun Gardens so it is affected by killing elementals? Kill fire elementals to increase the chance for fire weather to occur the next day, up to 12.5%. You could even have NM elementals/avatars spawn during those maxed weather conditions, which drop geodes or avatarites!
Weather science for fun and profit!

[Demon6324236]

Also, there isn't a difference between the rate of obtaining Snow and Flame geodes that would cause a difference of 80x the cost.

In the Northland areas, there is almost constant Ice or Dark weather, more often Ice I believe. Fire is rare, much more rare than a near constant Ice effect. This has a massive effect on prices, as anyone can easily go farm a ton of Snow Geodes, where as Flame, you must camp, and wait for the rare chance of the weather popping up for you to farm them, and can be for a very limited time.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Howdy,

Sorry I would like to correct what was posted slightly (edited previous post, was my error!). It is not that case that light and dark weather are rarer than fire weather, but it is the case that they are rare weather occurrences as well, yet the prices for those respective geodes are not expensive like that of Flame Geodes.

Also, as noted in the thread already, geodes also drop on the respective elemental day and the chance for them to drop on each day is balanced.

With that said, please continue to give your feedback and we will be sure to pass it on. Sorry for the mix up!

So because Light and Dark are semi-rare as well they should be classed in the same league as Flame, seriously?

Do you know why they're cheap? They're rarely sold. Unless you're doing a Curing Staff or Dark SMN one, they are NOT useful, mixed with the fact they're common weather when compared to fire.

Polish the crap as much as you want, it's still crap.

Want Dark - Go to Beaucedine [s] or Xarcabard [s].... Done
Want Light - Go to Nyzul Isle.... Done
Want Fire - Erm...... wait for Firesday cause you aren't seeing no weather friend.

[Werewolf]

If you want to bring the prices down increase fire weather to a reasonable amount and don't make geodes craftable anymore; sure fire weather is the rarest of the bunch but Ifrites don't cost nearly as much because you can't craft them... this is probably going to upset crafters (and farmers) of course; but to be honest this was a bad decision to begin with being able to craft a magian trial requirement from a rare drop geode into a desirable and more importantly profitable item.

[saevel]

Greetings,

As mentioned, the price of Flame Geodes is comparatively quite high due to its popularity for creating items such as Flame Gems/Pyrosoul Rings and completing Magian Trials.

Looking at weather frequency versus cost, dark and light weather is also rare, yet the price of these geodes are not very expensive. Also, there isn't a difference between the rate of obtaining Snow and Flame geodes that would cause a difference of 80x the cost.

With that said, increasing the drop rate for these would only be for convenience purposes. If you have any specific examples as to how Flame Geodes drop rates are not balanced versus other elements, please let us know and we can submit them for consideration.

Camate Okipuit, both light and dark weather are common in certain areas which leads to higher crystal / geode production on them. Several areas for dark weather and limbus for light weather.

Fire weather on the other hand is incredibly rare as there is no area that it appears often in. The four area's that you will see it have competing weather patterns that tend to override fire weather. Kuzultz and Mount Z are dust storms (earth weather) that can preclude fire weather from happening, even when it's in season. Cape Terrigan has heavy winds that tend to preclude heat waves, and the jungle has rainstorms that do the same.

We're asking SE to raise the likeliness of fire weather in some of these areas to be the same as Earth / Wind / Water is and to have it be possible all year round. This will immediately fix everyone's problem.

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Sorry was tired

[Demon6324236]

Camate, both light and dark weather are common in certain areas which leads to higher crystal / geode production on them. Several areas for dark weather and limbus for light weather.

Fire weather on the other hand is incredibly rare as there is no area that it appears often in. The four area's that you will see it have competing weather patterns that tend to override fire weather. Kuzultz and Mount Z are dust storms (earth weather) that can preclude fire weather from happening, even when it's in season. Cape Terrigan has heavy winds that tend to preclude heat waves, and the jungle has rainstorms that do the same.

We're asking SE to raise the likeliness of fire weather in some of these areas to be the same as Earth / Wind / Water is and to have it be possible all year round. This will immediately fix everyone's problem.

Camate?! WHERE!? I only saw Okipuit

[Mirage]

I hope SE neglects the rest of the game JUST TO PLEASE a bunch of casual failures who can't be assed to farm the gil for geodes. SOA? Push that back to 2020 please. The UI update? PLEASE don't even give it to us, just trash that idea.

What's more important here is making flame geodes for lazy people!

Take your false dilemmas elsewhere. To a forum where the user base is younger than 15 years on average, perhaps. Maybe they would fall for it.