The Flame Geode Thread...... Again.

[Minikom]

Dark weather Often
Castle Zvahl Baileys
Castle Zvahl Keep
Xarcabard

ice weather Very Often
Castle Zvahl Baileys
Castle Zvahl Keep
Uleguerand Range
Xarcabard
Beaucedine Glacier
Fei'Yin
Pso'Xja
Ranguemont Pass

Fire is so rare
Meriphataud Mountains
Halvung

can list and say water and thunder are often on Derfland areas
earth and wind on Kuzotz, Zelkhiem and another areas,

[Mirage]

Fire can happen in altepa, and valkrum as well, but it is still really rare there.

[Demon6324236]

make fire weather predominant in volcano zones (ifrit's, mt z, etc)

Agreed. No reason I should be able to watch Ifrit's erupt however, no weather at all still...

[xbobx]

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeealllllly. The people playing an hour a day expect to be able to go on and farm stuff in less than an hour on FFXI? I think you need to move on to another game or suck it up and farm gil. There is no reason this should be changed.

those people are the ones keeping the servers from not being shut down. So sick of hardcore people thinking that every game should be designed around them but they are too ignorant to realize it is the casual players that keep the game industry going.

[SNK]

those people are the ones keeping the servers from not being shut down. So sick of hardcore people thinking that every game should be designed around them but they are too ignorant to realize it is the casual players that keep the game industry going.

Actually, it's both. There's a market for hardcore and casual players. You can't sit there and say that casuals only support this mess of an industry when the hardcore players have been known to sink a ton of money into crap like extra extra shiny special XXX-I-Love-You-Long-Time costume crap for their games.

There's a balance which sadly doesn't exist and while I understand everyone's frustrations on Flame Geodes, you're gonna have to suck it up for awhile and stop shooting the messenger so much when he's only explaining what the devs feel is better overall.

[RAIST]

Once again, doesn't negate the fact that you can still force weather in instanced zones that are equally as "rare" or for other paths go to places with weather fairly often to complete trials within a convenience. Are you being argumentative because this might lower the going rate of fire geodes if something is changed? It will still be a highly desired geode, but it will at least give people a better option of farming them in a reasonable sense over having to wait for specific days or just happen to catch a rare fire weather.

I've seen your arguments in the past, and I've countered them in the past also with the same things being said in this topic now. The fact still remains that out of all other geodes/weather occurances, fire geode primarily has to rely on the process of buying rather than farming on ones own because of the rarity of weather and the fact not everyone will have time to work their schedule around to be on when a specific day comes up. Other paths you have the option to go on at any time of the day and choose a location that is known to have a weather of that type often or can force the weather in an instanced zone.

None of that has anything to do with the banter that was going on. This was about the choice of target netting an unbalanced amount of ifritites over geodes....what I was saying is if they had used the same method (killing by days only), but instead chosen targets in the 57-79 level range instead of 80+, they would have not gotten any ifritites, but all flame geodes.

It's about working smarter, not harder to make the most of the opportunities available.

[Komori]

Or how about they just change it so it's ifritites that make Pyrosoul Rings? At least then we'd only have to spend 85kx15 instead of 85kx55!

[RAIST]

Agreed. No reason I should be able to watch Ifrit's erupt however, no weather at all still...

Keep seeing this type of argument in these threads. Hot lava does not automatically mean hot weather---you can have active and errupting volcanoes in snow covered regions. Ifrits is in a tropical zone, so it kinda makes sense for it to have the high rainy weather.

Some of the other zones could go different ways. Deserts are not necessarily hot, but most people do readily accept the frequent dust storms in the typical desert climate (you can have frozen areas designated as a desert)--it is the lack of humidity/high evaporation that is used for a desert classification, not the temperature. The beaches...that's a tossup I guess--typically, oceanic beaches get a fair amount of wind, and temperatures vary greatly according to location--forget exactly where the Cape is in relation to the full world map, but if it's more north then close to the equator and thus puttting it in a cooler climate, might have something to do with it not getting more hot weather cycles outside of the late spring to early fall cycles.

Halvung/Mt. Z is probably the most viable one to adjust fire weather frequency, as it's kinda just out there with no real readily defined features other than it's massive shoreline....probably why it is so dusty (lots of wind from the surrounding seas). If anything, I would expect this could be the best candidate for SE to look into tweaking for more fire occurences if they were to consider doing it. They probably have too many reasons to keep the others as they are.

And, that is probably really what you are fighting on this issue....SE's desire to stick to more real-life representations of the weather according to how things are situated in the scope of topography/geography and such.

[Connavarr]

None of that has anything to do with the banter that was going on. This was about the choice of target netting an unbalanced amount of ifritites over geodes....what I was saying is if they had used the same method (killing by days only), but instead chosen targets in the 57-79 level range instead of 80+, they would have not gotten any ifritites, but all flame geodes.

It's about working smarter, not harder to make the most of the opportunities available.

200 flans, 250 Manticores. These were two of the trials I did for my STR sword the past couple weeks. You may wanna take a look at the level range of these mobs, and the zones they are in. Killing flans in Mount Z? Earth weather mainly, so even on firesdays very few flame geodes drop. Aby-Kons is the best place, but those mobs are higher, so you'll get a geode here and there, but mainly ifritites. Manticores? Cape Terrigan or Valley of Sorrows has fire weather on occasion, but again, level of the mobs means -tites, not geodes. Oh sure, you could wander Altepa sync'd looking for manticores. How smart is that? Not alot of manticores in a single camp, and fire weather is rare. Progress would be slower doing it this way.

As said, I did my STR kill trials recently. Thousand plus kills, 12 geodes, 14 ifritites. Can't work smarter when the system in place doesn't realisticaly allow it.

Also, the price of geodes is meaningless to me, I just buy the damn things and call it a day. Doesn't mean a flawed system isn't still flawed.

[Demon6324236]

Keep seeing this type of argument in these threads. Hot lava does not automatically mean hot weather---you can have active and errupting volcanoes in snow covered regions. Ifrits is in a tropical zone, so it kinda makes sense for it to have the high rainy weather.

While I agree with you on this in a realistic standpoint, that only goes so far. If I am inside of a volcano, and standing near the center, and it erupts... Its going to be hot, very, hot. Now with this in mind, if nothing else Ifrit's weather should be fire in these moments, if not more often. I understand its a forest which gets rain fall, but the Volcano erupting while your inside of it or extremely close to it should take precedence.