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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    That's all good and fine, but I only ask that others stop passing this off as one of my "choices". It doesn't actually exist.
    Oh cupcakes, it actually DOES EXIST, you should know this better, you really need only 3 people to kill Tough mob and can easily chain even match - tough, with xp bonus ring, you will get your standard xp party of 200-300 per kill. Have people sub dancer, get regen/refresh bonus, buy TONS of hi-potions (they are crazy cheap now), eat your food (yeah you need to do this), have up to date gears. After all if you really want old school, 200-300 xp should be rather sufficient for you - and finding 2 other people is easier than making your 6 party set up with jobs xyz.

    3 people set up is actually a better way to experience the old school feeling since all 3 members need to be alert, know what they are doing and communicate with each other as well as need to come up with strategy and learn how to skillchain with each others. You don't have safety nets of 6 people, you must learn how to manage your tp, your mp, you also need to find mobs that are weak to the majority of your group weapons (piercing, slashing, blunt, etc...) It cannot get anymore old school than this. Plus you can think outside the box in terms of job set up, and subs, and end up with tons of creative ways: dark/whm, pup/dnc, a party of 3 drgs, etc...
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  2. #532
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    LOL I am not being huffy, but you seems to not get the idea. Yes the developers choose to alter the xp system, and let you gain your levels way faster than it used to be. Which somewhat render lower lvls camp rather obsolete but in a good way since you get to move to new areas every 90-120 mnts or so, which also a bad way since every time you move, you can easily add 20-30 mnts of travelling time with people afk for break, gearing, buying new spells, etc... The only old school about the 6 person party is that everyone need to work as a group and you need jobs xyz. Most people do not like to do old school party anymore because it is job dependent, if your tank and healer left, you will have to rebuild and may end up with a disbanded party, unless you can find a static old school. As well as if your party members have no access to certain areas, it can frustrate others and resulting on members leaving.

    The new FFXI is all about ENDGAME!!! Gear collections and weapon magian trials are the new grind system now. Frankly is for the better. I have no wish or desire to "level the right way" to 99 - if I want to know my job and how to play it, I just go solo those abyssea mobs and seal NMs. Either I know what the hell I am doing, or die trying, no safety nets, no helps, no assistance, DO or DIE and suck it up. So I better know how to utilize everything in my arsenals to survive. Most people just get to 99 and never bother to learn the jobs, which as many has mentioned, most of these complaints are mainly people problems not game system problem. The developers made FFXI more enjoyable, fun and accessible, they also create a more convenient way to travel, which is always a great thing.
    Moving camp every 1.5hrs. - 2hrs. wouldn't be a big deal to me. Depending on the zone and level, that used to be the norm. Simply because on the occasion your tank or healer left and you couldn't find a replacement doesn't qualify the whole of the party experience to be generally negative. Maybe if you have really bad luck with them, I guess.

    I understand the new game is all about ENDGAME!!! Let's just remove everything before that because it's unnecessary? Start each and every new character at level cap?
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  3. #533
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Sorry, this doesn't make much sense to me. The 'system' has increased EXP and lowered TNL to the point where it inhibits old-style camping to the point of near-prohibition, and this is our problem?
    That totally makes sense to you. You're stubborn, not stupid. Pretty sure you're trolling though.

    You have the option to create ye olde six man party.

    The players you invite have the option to refuse you because they don't particularly care for ye olde six man parties.
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    So you think that because you can't manage to build a single 6-man party that SE should alter the entire leveling system for THOUSANDS of other people, to appease just you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    Oh cupcakes, it actually DOES EXIST, you should know this better, you really need only 3 people to kill Tough mob and can easily chain even match - tough, with xp bonus ring, you will get your standard xp party of 200-300 per kill. Have people sub dancer, get regen/refresh bonus, buy TONS of hi-potions (they are crazy cheap now), eat your food (yeah you need to do this), have up to date gears. After all if you really want old school, 200-300 xp should be rather sufficient for you - and finding 2 other people is easier than making your 6 party set up with jobs xyz.

    3 people set up is actually a better way to experience the old school feeling since all 3 members need to be alert, know what they are doing and communicate with each other as well as need to come up with strategy and learn how to skillchain with each others. You don't have safety nets of 6 people, you must learn how to manage your tp, your mp, you also need to find mobs that are weak to the majority of your group weapons (piercing, slashing, blunt, etc...) It cannot get anymore old school than this. Plus you can think outside the box in terms of job set up, and subs, and end up with tons of creative ways: dark/whm, pup/dnc, a party of 3 drgs, etc...
    I'll put this as plainly as I can. 99% of the people I could otherwise get to join me on this venture are in Gusgen or CN; Anyone that's not has their flag up en route or waiting to join them. 99% of the people you say I could simply "get to go with me" are not interested. Any clearer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    And I've explained to you on more than one occasion that inviting people to a classic grind party returns laughs and giggles. For some reason you fail to read and understand this fact, and maintain that this is a viable choice. You're wrong and I'm here to tell you you're wrong.

    Just a note before I block you though, I did another one of those useless searches for people with their flags up willing to go grind, and you know what I found? Two people with their flags up to join another 30 people at Gusgen. I suppose you're going to suggest that I walk into the middle of them and ask who wants to leave and go party with me?

    Bye now.
    I already told you a dozen times, people form such parties shouting for members and that there's no legitimate reason to need a six man group and quite a few really good reasons to keep it low man. You putting me on ignore isn't going to help you as I'm certain someone will quote me to show my argument and it does nothing to change reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    That totally makes sense to you. You're stubborn, not stupid. Pretty sure you're trolling though.

    You have the option to create ye olde six man party.

    The players you invite have the option to refuse you because they don't particularly care for ye olde six man parties.
    And this because, in part at least, a faster and more effortless system has been laid out for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    And this because, in part at least, a faster and more effortless system has been laid out for them.
    Yes...and?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    Yes...and?
    But, didn't you just say it wasn't due to the 'system'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    And this because, in part at least, a faster and more effortless system has been laid out for them.
    So your solution is what? Petition SE to change the leveling system against the wishes of the majority of the player base to take things back to the way YOU like?
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