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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    I don't think I've yet to make such an assertive, immovable stance as of yet. However, someone's opinion got things changed to the way they are now, so why not mine? I don't really expect them to revert this game completely back to its former state - but removing the auto-repeat pages is entirely possible.
    Because your opinion represents a very small minority of what the player base wants.
    The changes that have been made to EXPing are a result of the opinions that a majority of users held and not the opinion of one mithra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    You have options. So do the people you invite. They are exercising their option of not joining you for a miserable gaming experience. The old options are still there. Your issue is with the players, not the system.
    Sorry, this doesn't make much sense to me. The 'system' has increased EXP and lowered TNL to the point where it inhibits old-style camping to the point of near-prohibition, and this is our problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Sorry, this doesn't make much sense to me. The 'system' has increased EXP and lowered TNL to the point where it inhibits old-style camping to the point of near-prohibition, and this is our problem?
    It's only a "problem" to stubborn people who refuse to let go of the past and acknowledge that the game has changed drastically and that old-style camping isn't going to make any sort of big comeback unless a huge proportion of FFXI players demand it.

    As it stands, this isn't the case, and even if it were, getting simple requests fulfilled by the dev team is hard enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Because your opinion represents a very small minority of what the player base wants.
    The changes that have been made to EXPing are a result of the opinions that a majority of users held and not the opinion of one mithra.
    At least you put it succinctly, unlike another who likes to throw around the words 'no one' and 'everyone'. I'll hand that to you - that the playerbase of this game does not want it. Yet, to say that nobody wants it, as in nobody on Earth, is quite a far-fetched notion to support a claim. I say people out there do want it, and it's an obvious given that the majority of those people are not going to be posting or Liking anything on this forum. Who's to say the majority or minority truly is, well, who's to say? Wait, we can ask Blizzard, yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    However, someone's opinion got things changed to the way they are now, so why not mine?
    Because you are unable to articulate what your opinion is actually based on, which is a prerequisite to consideration of its merits.

    More than anything, I admit I'm a little frustrated to have to explain such a central Truism of Life to a man in his mid-30s.
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    Last edited by scaevola; 08-08-2012 at 04:50 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    It's only a "problem" to stubborn people who refuse to let go of the past and acknowledge that the game has changed drastically and that old-style camping isn't going to make any sort of big comeback unless a huge proportion of FFXI players demand it.

    As it stands, this isn't the case, and even if it were, getting simple requests fulfilled by the dev team is hard enough.
    That's all good and fine, but I only ask that others stop passing this off as one of my "choices". It doesn't actually exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scaevola View Post
    Because you are unable to articulate what your opinion is actually based on, which is a prerequisite to consideration of its merits.
    Because I enjoyed it. Simple as that, and it's been said repeatedly. If that explanation doesn't work for me, then it doesn't work for anyone else and their opinions, either.

    EDIT: You can't go 2 posts without insulting me somehow, can you? Why should I even bother with anything you have to say? Why are you even bothering with anything I have to say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    That's all good and fine, but I only ask that others stop passing this off as one of my "choices". It doesn't actually exist.
    It's really hard to form an old-fashioned EXP party, but if you are really as adamant as you seem about leveling up that way, you could probably find at least 2-3 people in Port Jeuno who feel the same way and wouldn't mind forming an EXP static party. Of course it'd be a compromise since finding an entire group of 6 might be asking for too much, depending on your server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Sorry, this doesn't make much sense to me. The 'system' has increased EXP and lowered TNL to the point where it inhibits old-style camping to the point of near-prohibition, and this is our problem?
    LOL I am not being huffy, but you seems to not get the idea. Yes the developers choose to alter the xp system, and let you gain your levels way faster than it used to be. Which somewhat render lower lvls camp rather obsolete but in a good way since you get to move to new areas every 90-120 mnts or so, which also a bad way since every time you move, you can easily add 20-30 mnts of travelling time with people afk for break, gearing, buying new spells, etc... The only old school about the 6 person party is that everyone need to work as a group and you need jobs xyz. Most people do not like to do old school party anymore because it is job dependent, if your tank and healer left, you will have to rebuild and may end up with a disbanded party, unless you can find a static old school. As well as if your party members have no access to certain areas, it can frustrate others and resulting on members leaving.

    The new FFXI is all about ENDGAME!!! Gear collections and weapon magian trials are the new grind system now. Frankly is for the better. I have no wish or desire to "level the right way" to 99 - if I want to know my job and how to play it, I just go solo those abyssea mobs and seal NMs. Either I know what the hell I am doing, or die trying, no safety nets, no helps, no assistance, DO or DIE and suck it up. So I better know how to utilize everything in my arsenals to survive. Most people just get to 99 and never bother to learn the jobs, which as many has mentioned, most of these complaints are mainly people problems not game system problem. The developers made FFXI more enjoyable, fun and accessible, they also create a more convenient way to travel, which is always a great thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Because I enjoyed it. Simple as that, and it's been said repeatedly. If that explanation doesn't work for me, then it doesn't work for anyone else and their opinions, either.
    It doesn't work like that.

    In anything. Ever.

    If it did, I am not at all exaggerating when I say we would still be burning people for witchcraft.

    EDIT: I keep insulting you because honestly, really and truly, if you're seriously this open and self-aware about your lack of desire/inability to apply even the most basic critical thought to your own assumptions and beliefs, it's all you're really good for. This goes way beyond a video game, man.
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    Last edited by scaevola; 08-08-2012 at 04:57 AM.
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