Nyzul Isle Assault Bug

[Kristal]

Mathematical Fallacy?

Nope. Just showing that an answer is not always the same under all conditions.

BinaryStringToInteger("1"+"1") = 3
BinaryStringToInteger("11") = 3
&b11 = 3
3=3

Assuming you want to stay within the restrictions of integer numbers, I can also add another restriction, that excludes all even numbers. Numbers go 1,3,5,7,9 , in which case 1+1=3, 3+3=7, 1+7=9, 1-1=-1 etc.

[saevel]

BinaryStringToInteger("1"+"1") = 3

Won't work. "1" isn't 01 nor 10 in binary. The ASCII character "1" is 49 in decimal or 31H depending how you roll.

This your function would return the integer 98 as the result of combining the binary value of two "1" characters. Of course if your using unicode then the answer could be much longer.

Now if you first combined the two strings into 1 single string, then you could get it to be 11b. Yet 11b is NOT the same as (1 + 1).

Your playing semantics with math, never do that.

[Arcon]

Won't work. "1" isn't 01 nor 10 in binary. The ASCII character "1" is 49 in decimal or 31H depending how you roll.

That's a matter of implementation. "1" is a string, not a character. "1"+"1" performs string concatenation (in any reasonably language). And a string cannot be converted to a number (at least not in any meaningful way). If BinaryStringToInteger takes a string of 1s and 0s (which is what I'd assume under the name and the only thing that makes sense), then it would work. You assume it splits the string by characters and converts them to their numeric representation, which would make the function name pretty misleading (and which would differ by the underlying system).

Now if you first combined the two strings into 1 single string, then you could get it to be 11b. Yet 11b is NOT the same as (1 + 1).

That's his entire point. He wanted to say that 1+1=3 is valid if the + is not numerical addition but concatenation and the left-hand side of the equation is interpreted as binary.

[Ragmar]

Eh when did i ever ask for heads to roll? not that i agree with peeps that cheat at this event, ive done it once just to try it out with some friends think we got to floor 60, between the fact that my shell's been helping peeps through assaults (working towards getting a few peeps assaults) and my refusal to go to the same lengths i do not do this event.

While i am not asking for heads to roll i do think the event needs a little more consideration, the overall concept of RNG stacked on top of RNG on top of RNG is just meh.

I wasnt intending to say you were just that many in this thread have been and I find it lulz when they try to justify why their own third party tools are ok but others who use another third party tool should be banned. Again neither one of these tools negatively effect the rest of the player base. The argument that if they werent cheating SE would see the need to rework this content could absolutely be used for the macro system as well as just the basic functions of windower. I mean if SE were losing their player base rather than people downloading the windower client maybe we would have gotten FFXI 2.0! Right?

[Demon6324236]

If SE was losing their player base FFXI would be dead and the devs all moved to FFXIV in hopes its 2.0 edition comes out sooner and better. I have no doubt that all thats keeping FFXI alive right now is the fact so many people still play it instead of FFXIV and we have showed we all love this game enough to keep at it, soon as we ditch it, so will they.

[Ragmar]

Nope. Just showing that an answer is not always the same under all conditions.

BinaryStringToInteger("1"+"1") = 3
BinaryStringToInteger("11") = 3
&b11 = 3
3=3

Assuming you want to stay within the restrictions of integer numbers, I can also add another restriction, that excludes all even numbers. Numbers go 1,3,5,7,9 , in which case 1+1=3, 3+3=7, 1+7=9, 1-1=-1 etc.

Imma go with Sev on this one as everything I googled show this to be incorrect. And 1+1 will always =2 even if what you're saying is correct because you're talking about a completely different equation with restrictions that are not present in 1+1. Additional information would be needed for you to even consider your equation. I never took like trig or calc but even I know the structure of the problem determines the formula used to find the answer. I'm always up to learn new stuff so if you really believe what you're saying provide some supporting links pls.

[Arcon]

I'm always up to learn new stuff so if you really believe what you're saying provide some supporting links pls.

It's not a math problem at all, it's a programming problem. I explained it three posts above. There's also many (mathematical) ways 1+1 can equal something other than 2, for example in a Z%2 algebra where 1+1=0. In this case, the + is the modular addition instead of the usual arithmetic addition.

[Ragmar]

If SE was losing their player base FFXI would be dead and the devs all moved to FFXIV in hopes its 2.0 edition comes out sooner and better. I have no doubt that all thats keeping FFXI alive right now is the fact so many people still play it instead of FFXIV and we have showed we all love this game enough to keep at it, soon as we ditch it, so will they.

You are not part of the we that have played and supported this game for a long time. FFXI is alive because it has a paying player base which creates a profit for SE!? OMG no wai. You're still here trying to justify you violating the ToS while wanting others punished for doing the same. You didn't like a part of the game so you violated the ToS to play how you want. Someone who swapped dats did exactly that and no more. You do know someone else having nyzul gear no way effects you right? I mean other than to cause abysseanoobumadness.

[FrankReynolds]

I really hate hate hate when people get on other peoples case about their ffxiah profiles as if it has anything to do with a topic, But hearing "abysseanoobumadness" coming from someone who has this: "WoC looking for a few mature people to build empy/AF3+2/Relic" in their profile strikes me as odd.

[Demon6324236]

You are not part of the we that have played and supported this game for a long time. FFXI is alive because it has a paying player base which creates a profit for SE!? OMG no wai. You're still here trying to justify you violating the ToS while wanting others punished for doing the same. You didn't like a part of the game so you violated the ToS to play how you want. Someone who swapped dats did exactly that and no more. You do know someone else having nyzul gear no way effects you right? I mean other than to cause abysseanoobumadness.

Everything I said was in response to a single line of yours...

I mean if SE were losing their player base rather than people downloading the windower client maybe we would have gotten FFXI 2.0! Right?

I honestly don't care what gear others have except in the fact I take after it by adding it to my own plans time to time. I also don't care what you use to play this game so long as the outcome doesn't directly effect me in a detrimental way. I only joined in this for the fact you were condemning Windowers ability to improve macros so far as I could tell and it has become something I accept as basically essential in my playing of RDM. I could go with the ingame way of doing it and it would suck, not be detrimental so much as it would be annoying and painful, something I would rather not subject myself to.



Edit:Wait, 1 more thing, I was unaware I was playing this game for free and no money required. Which is apparently the case because...

You are not part of the we that have played and supported this game for a long time.

...nice to know I'm apparently not part of the group supporting/playing the game or paying for it.