Again, 1 can be done in game, 1 can not be done in game. The 1 that can be done in game is only a time saver. The one that can not be done in game is cheating via giving you an unfair advantage by knowing something you would not know otherwise. I gain nothing from using 1 macro for 16 actions other than less pain for my hands and half a second of time. Where as with dats you gain knowledge of which lamps are what number, letting you save alot of time and potentially win an event you would have otherwise lost.