NEO Nyzul 2.0

[Demon6324236]

You could get a free floor after the soulflayer and a specified enemy after that floor and rebound from a shitty soulflayer floor too btw...the run isn't automatically over. Just shut up and enjoy the fact that it's easy and not that time consuming. It took me like 220 kills to get toci, I consider this a $$#%# gift.

I have gotten 1 free floor, ever, between normal and NNI, I don't count on that, and specified enemy floors, can be soulflayers, which is actually the kind of floors I was talking about anyways because I had one last run I did and it killed us both in time and in players, we had to split up and left 1 healer at the start. The 2nd group was to far away to be healed, the deaths caused a loss because unweakening and no Embrava on them anymore.

Yes....so is everything newer in FFXI at the moment.

But my problem is the fact thats how all new content is, if you just sit back and deal with it without complaining, and tell people to deal with it, they will keep throwing it at us thinking we don't care, if you actually voice your disappointment and disagreement with their current way of doing things it means they might take notice and actually change their ways. Doing nothing gets nothing done, I will run NNI with or without it being changed, same as I will do VW while I wait to see if they fix it, but I will also still come to this forum every day and tell them I think it should be changed, because I do not like the way they are doing things.

[Demon6324236]

seriously.. a "rep" posts here but sayn not 1 word about people cheating... or about the people admiting to cheating in this thread. This is a complete joke. Way to have 0 intergrity SE. Way to let people know its ok to cheat.

They are getting our money, they don't need integrity, so long as people keep paying they are perfectly happy I'm sure, that or they are planing a way to find all the people cheating somehow, and if they are, they are keeping it secret so people don't try to avoid it or stop cheating before the plan is complete.

I would honestly think even if the cheating is client side, they can check the files for things like changing names of things (lamps to find orders instantly) and with enough errors, ban them. Make an extra long update for something we know not what it is, and instead of actually updating alot, have it do minor updates, but alot of checking files against current files, if possible should work.

[user201108211515]

pc only servers and I'd be happy. Just to never have to look at another cheathing loser. sick of it. 8 years of fake pros pretending to be good. its so old.

[Demon6324236]

pc only servers and I'd be happy. Just to never have to look at another cheathing loser. sick of it. 8 years of fake pros pretending to be good. its so old.

I explained this problem already -_-;

[saevel]

If a great group with no hacks has a 20% win rate, thats 1 piece every FIVE days. That's 2.5 HOURS a week to get AMAZING gear. I personally wouldn't F-in care if I had a win rate of 5-10%...that's still freaking great reward for time/effort. Get over it. Stop trying to bring nin thf pup and crap to neo nyzle. If your group can't clear the content, you probably shouldn't be aiming for neo nyzle gear, and you should be aiming to better yourself and then try again. The event is perfect. Yeah order floors are a great @($@ blocker....just try again the next day. It's only 30 minutes. No reason to be complaining this is still too hard. 2 SCH 4 heavy DD...that is all you need. And no, you may not be mediocre geared. You better be able to pump out ws of 3k consistantly, or you're doing it wrong. This is getting exhausting hearing everyone call this event hard... or too luck based. Flat out, it has great reward/effort ratio.

Umm no.

A group of solid experienced 360 players has a 1 in 10~12 at best, typically your looking at 1 in 20. For every "my group made 100 without X / Y / Z" you have ten to twenty failures of that same group. You also have it so that the guy claiming "no hacks" is actually the SCH at the runic portal waiting to click jump, and he's correct that he doesn't need them. The four guys running around looking for lamps / specified enemy / kill all / ect.. are the ones who need "secret ninja techniques". The removal of the unknown element, to know the exact order of lamps and the exact number, to know the exact specified enemy or the exact enemy family (number) is an immense time saver. And even with that, a good group of experienced players will have a 50% clear rate.

That is what's broken with this event, when you could scale 5 floors at a time the random lamp BS was tolerable. Now that your expected to scale 17+ floors at once, all that random "screw you" stuff isn't tolerable. I'm all for SE removing the lamps, or making it so that each lamp tells you it's number in the sequence. Make "specified" enemy have a different name, specified enemy group have different names. In short they could make their own version of "ninja techniques" that everyone gets, even the 360 peeps. That's all they need to do, everything else is understandable.

[Monchat]

Don't pay attention tu Fupafighter. After all, he can use a weaponskill right before a melee round, he is the one, he can bend the rules of JA delay and all.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Amazing groups can get 50% win rate without hacks, stop trolling and speaking nonsense just because you can't do it.

You try too hard, and lie too quickly..... It's like arguing you can get a 50% win rate on lottery tickets.

POIDH

[wish12oz]

You try too hard, and lie too quickly..... It's like arguing you can get a 50% win rate on lottery tickets.

POIDH

People who don't even try and just sit around complaining are amazing.

I already explained it, all you need to do is be able to clear 19 floors on average, and that gives you a 50% win rate. If you can clear 15-17 floors on average, you'll get at least 1 piece of gear a week, thats where average groups will fall, one piece of gear a week for 7 30 min periods of effort is amazing by FFXI standards, stop complaining like a scrub, go make some friends and try.

A group of solid experienced 360 players has a 1 in 10~12 chance

I fail to see the problem with this. Stop expecting gear to be mailed to you by your moogle every time you log in, they already fixed the problems with neo nyzul.

Also: it's more like 20%

[Daniel_Hatcher]

People who don't even try and just sit around complaining are amazing.

I already explained it, all you need to do is be able to clear 19 floors on average, and that gives you a 50% win rate. If you can clear 15-17 floors on average, you'll get at least 1 piece of gear a week, thats where average groups will fall, one piece of gear a week for 7 30 min periods of effort is amazing by FFXI standards, stop complaining like a scrub, go make some friends and try.

Explain it all you like, you don't get a 50% win rate without lamp .dat swaps (minimum), no matter how hard you try to say you do.

This is still in SE's terms cheating.

[wish12oz]

Explain it all you like, you don't get a 50% win rate without lamp .dat swaps (minimum), no matter how hard you try to say you do.

This is still in SE's terms cheating.

Order lamps appear about once every 50 floors you actually do, theyre not a big deal. If you actually ever did the event you'd know this.