Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
If a great group with no hacks has a 20% win rate, thats 1 piece every FIVE days. That's 2.5 HOURS a week to get AMAZING gear. I personally wouldn't F-in care if I had a win rate of 5-10%...that's still freaking great reward for time/effort. Get over it. Stop trying to bring nin thf pup and crap to neo nyzle. If your group can't clear the content, you probably shouldn't be aiming for neo nyzle gear, and you should be aiming to better yourself and then try again. The event is perfect. Yeah order floors are a great @($@ blocker....just try again the next day. It's only 30 minutes. No reason to be complaining this is still too hard. 2 SCH 4 heavy DD...that is all you need. And no, you may not be mediocre geared. You better be able to pump out ws of 3k consistantly, or you're doing it wrong. This is getting exhausting hearing everyone call this event hard... or too luck based. Flat out, it has great reward/effort ratio.
Umm no.

A group of solid experienced 360 players has a 1 in 10~12 at best, typically your looking at 1 in 20. For every "my group made 100 without X / Y / Z" you have ten to twenty failures of that same group. You also have it so that the guy claiming "no hacks" is actually the SCH at the runic portal waiting to click jump, and he's correct that he doesn't need them. The four guys running around looking for lamps / specified enemy / kill all / ect.. are the ones who need "secret ninja techniques". The removal of the unknown element, to know the exact order of lamps and the exact number, to know the exact specified enemy or the exact enemy family (number) is an immense time saver. And even with that, a good group of experienced players will have a 50% clear rate.

That is what's broken with this event, when you could scale 5 floors at a time the random lamp BS was tolerable. Now that your expected to scale 17+ floors at once, all that random "screw you" stuff isn't tolerable. I'm all for SE removing the lamps, or making it so that each lamp tells you it's number in the sequence. Make "specified" enemy have a different name, specified enemy group have different names. In short they could make their own version of "ninja techniques" that everyone gets, even the 360 peeps. That's all they need to do, everything else is understandable.