Quote Originally Posted by scaevola View Post
Even if you're going suggest there's no difference between extended macros/spellcast, which don't actually let you do anything you couldn't already, and fillmode/dat-swapping, which very much do*, merely acknowledging that stuff like fillmode and dat-swapping is straight-up cheating doesn't mean the people saying so in this thread begrudge the people using them; it's just setting up the premise of the main point of all these Nyzul threads: if people can't or won't clear Nyzul without cheating, there is something wrong with Nyzul.
A lot of reason why there aren't many pt reported to clear with completely legit pt is because majority of player base already been using windower, so fillmode on is really just one key away. It's actually harder to find 6 completely legit player than a few windower user pt nowadays. It's not because it's not possible to clear without windower, but because many ppl would rather go for the easy route with higher success rate when majority of players uses windower. Say if a completely legit pt has 10% win rate on F100, this win rate may be what's intended and nothing wrong with it....1 month for 1 god tier armor, which is just right for a MMORPG. Using cheats just makes it faster.

Also a completely legit pt can still clear F80 easily, after 25 clear times you can get F100 armor too.

Honestly though, completely legit pt still has a chance to get F100 gear, just because 3rd pt tool user get it faster, doesn't mean there is something wrong. The difficulty of Nyzul V2 is just fine, it's already one of the fastest gear capping event in FFXI's history. Or you won't be happy until all gears are handed to you in your dbox in 5 days?

Also I can't do what extended macro/spellcast user do without windower(since I don't use windower). Extended macro user swap gear with 1 button, I can't unless I click 2~3 times. Spellcast user doesn't shoot their QD bullet, I do if I forget to click ammo macro.