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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    I love how the DEVs try to say the drops are good, like we have no idea what the drops are. Does this event secretly drop defending rings and cursed breastplate -1s or something?
    If you kill Paramount Botulus he can drop up to 4 Ebodies.
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    Sparthosx - Lakshmi - 90 BLU BRD SAM COR RNG DNC PUP BST WAR WHM
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  2. #132
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    This may be against popular belief but I'm with the dev's on this one. Legion is still pretty new and not a lot of people are doing it because they aren't seeing immediate results. Do you think the first group to run AV was successful? Absolutely not, even today he can still be quite the challenge. I think more people need to get into it first. I will agree that getting 36 people together to run it is darn near impossible though. Perhaps that could be tweaked a tad or introduce some sort of non-sucky NPC comrades, similar to Besieged.
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  3. #133
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    AV in his heyday had good drops worth dedicating resources to in addition to the internet celebrity that came with being in an LS capable of even attempting to take him down. Legion has mediocre drops that the AH rivals, awards nothing for failure (least JOL had Novios) and relies on one strategy to realistically win.

    There is no comparison.
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    Sparthosx - Lakshmi - 90 BLU BRD SAM COR RNG DNC PUP BST WAR WHM
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  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    Hey everyone,



    We will continue to monitor the situation, but we would ultimately like to see players progress through this content a bit by forming good strategies before we do anything with the reward system.
    unless their is some gimmik to get TE, weaken next wave, .. (by killing in a specific order, Ying-yang style, using related 2h after some move...) embrava/PD zerg is the best strategi people can use to kill tho most monster before time out
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  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    Hey everyone,

    Looking at the current situation in-game for Legion we understand that it is difficult to gather participants and the content itself is quite challenging.

    Regarding the rewards, we feel it is a bit early to judge whether they are sufficient or not for this content. As progress is made in Legion more and more equipment will be accessible for exchange through Legion points and there are also a wide variety of special new weapons that are only obtainable within Legion. Not to mention that the drop rates for Arise and Meteor are higher than the Provenance Watcher battle.

    We will continue to monitor the situation, but we would ultimately like to see players progress through this content a bit by forming good strategies before we do anything with the reward system.
    Let's be honest here, there is no "working" stratagy that dosn't consist of abusing SCH and SMN 2 hour, because that is the ONLY way to even have a chance in legion. and even then they are also limited by time. even if there was a ":normal" way of doing this event, you will most likely time out, because you don't get time to "rest and recover" it's a zerg fest.

    are the DEVs expecting everyone to be top notch, flawless players? and what's even more insulting is that most if not all the rewards are lack-luster an entire LS can get arise and Metor from dragon before they see even 1 in legion from an area that is un-winnable because of time limits or severly heavy Aoe Nms.
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    Last edited by Vortex; 06-02-2012 at 06:45 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Soranika View Post
    Rajas ring is as outdated as Tamas ring at this point.
    -_-....

  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth View Post
    The Pulse weapons are generally worse than 99 Relic/Mythic/Empyreans. If you were aiming to put some big incentive in the event, you missed it. There are some minor upgrades to situational mage gear and abjurations / abjuration augmentation items.
    This. I honestly have no idea id the DEVs read player feeback but arise is garbage. It's a trophy item that is essentially useless. A 4th raise spell for a whm? useless . Gives player a reraise effect? lol. Even if it gave raise ga to all PC in a 50' range i wouldnt buy it unless it removes weakness and insntant cure everyone.

    Meteor isnt garbage but its useless.. because you need 5~6 BLM to use it efficiently.

    Arise beeing garbage, nobody wanting 18/36 man events has been repeated here over and over, legion failing has been said since its introduction on test server. Listen to your players.

    Edit: and the pulse weapons make me laugh. They were presented several months ago as weapons of awsomeness. A recent test proved the dagger's spacial effect is terribly underwhelming. at 95 cap a basica magian STR killa was on par, and 99 cap it is bad. The first pulse weapon was Sagasinger? did the dev actually thing anyone in their rigth mind would go after it? It has nothing special except pulsing. Also I killed ADL 120 times i believe and only got one with TH2.
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    Last edited by Monchat; 06-03-2012 at 12:22 AM.

  7. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    Hey everyone,

    Looking at the current situation in-game for Legion we understand that it is difficult to gather participants and the content itself is quite challenging.

    Regarding the rewards, we feel it is a bit early to judge whether they are sufficient or not for this content. As progress is made in Legion more and more equipment will be accessible for exchange through Legion points and there are also a wide variety of special new weapons that are only obtainable within Legion. Not to mention that the drop rates for Arise and Meteor are higher than the Provenance Watcher battle.

    We will continue to monitor the situation, but we would ultimately like to see players progress through this content a bit by forming good strategies before we do anything with the reward system.
    Oki,

    I understand your just providing us feedback from the developers, we're not here to shoot the messenger.

    Whomever is providing you with your information has no idea how to play this game, I would seriously question both their mental capacity and their sanity.

    Currently Legion is nothing but nine super buffed NMs that have stupid amounts of HP and incredibly bad drop rates on even worse loot. The only NMs worth doing are the final ones and with only 30m to clear them the only strategy is to use Embrava and Perfect Defense for every NM.

    If the developers have designed some other "strategy" element, then it is not working. It is possible a bug in the code is preventing any form of this "strategy" element from manifesting itself and the NMs are instead in full on rampage mode. The developers should re-examine their code to determine if it is actually working as intended, and if so they need to re-evaluate how they expect anyone to be capable of killing nine NMs in 30m without using Embrava and Perfect Defense multiple times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monchat View Post
    This. I honestly have no idea id the DEVs read player feeback but arise is garbage. It's a trophy item that is essentially useless. A 4th raise spell for a whm? useless . Gives player a reraise effect? lol. Even if it gave raise ga to all PC in a 50' range i wouldnt buy it unless it removes weakness and insntant cure everyone.
    Yes..a 3 minute weakness +instant reraise on the person reciving it is useless..are you retarded? because no one ever dies, right? seriously, think before staying stupid BS like that.

    Meteor isnt garbage but its useless.. because you need 5~6 BLM to use it efficiently.
    Watch at least 3-4 blms use it together, it's restrictions to be good are high, but it is far from useless. and it is NONE ELEMENTAL which is the best part about it.

    Neither one is garbage just because you don't have or can ever get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soranika View Post
    Rajas ring is as outdated as Tamas ring at this point.
    -_-....

  9. #139
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    Monchat's logic on Meteor is garbage is because you need multiple blms to cast it, it is only seriously accessible from Prov Watcher, and has a low drop rate, not to mention it will either be LS centric (if you do Prov with an LS) or it's a PUG, so it's either going to be locked by the leader (I have seen this) or FL, in which case the chances of a group of blms actually having and working together to cast Meteor is absurdly low. What's the point of having a spell that requires multiple blms to work, then make it incredibly hard to obtain? You can't seriously believe that makes sense.

    Arise isn't worth either its price tag or its rarity.
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  10. #140
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    Nothing from Prov watch is worth the time and rarity by that logic, saio is about the only real "decent" thing worth getting and even then its a minor upgrade, but it still stands that arise is more useful then meteor.

    only stupid people buy either scrolls for double digit milions so it will never be worth the price tag people put on it. the only thing unattractive about arise is the MP cost for outside VW and abyssea.

    you won't ever get enough blms to fully utilize meteor because other then overly rich jps most people who get the scroll sell it since gill is to hard to make for them. it would indeed have to be an LS thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soranika View Post
    Rajas ring is as outdated as Tamas ring at this point.
    -_-....

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