Legion still sucks.

[Sparthos]

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How many more nerfs until this becomes doable by alliances not using Perfect Defense and Embrava to stay alive?

[Elexia]

When they remove Abyssea and people learn how to play the game properly? Who knows, it's just too hard for some people after 2 years of handholding.

[Zerich]

When they remove Abyssea and people learn how to play the game properly? Who knows, it's just too hard for some people after 2 years of handholding.

looking forward to your full clear video mr.1337

[Sparthos]

When they remove Abyssea and people learn how to play the game properly? Who knows, it's just too hard for some people after 2 years of handholding.

"Abyssea was too easy" is a poor excuse given Legion has a laundrylist of flaws that have very little to do with handholding and everything to do with bad decisionmaking.

[Cahlum]

Legions main flaw is the drops are absolutely crap i'm in a group 18 man static we do legion but the drops are just abysmal.

All the stuff that drops in provenance should drop in legion and vice versa. SE cannot stick a bunch of rehashed nms in the horototo ruin, add a bunch of crap drops then expect everyone to do it. Not to mention the 360 k entry fee.

[Luvbunny]

Another dead contents - let's hope they are not abandoning this and actually willing to make fun, accessible and enjoyable. As it is now is one of those why bother to do. Still learn absolutely nothing after creating blockbuster content that is Abyssea - even void watch is mildly successful after tweak.

[Mahoro]

Legions main flaw is the drops are absolutely crap i'm in a group 18 man static we do legion but the drops are just abysmal.

All the stuff that drops in provenance should drop in legion and vice versa. SE cannot stick a bunch of rehashed nms in the horototo ruin, add a bunch of crap drops then expect everyone to do it. Not to mention the 360 k entry fee.

Some of the lower-wave items are indeed stinky ;; Looks like they backloaded all the good stuff in the final waves and final chamber.

[Anapingofness]

When they remove Abyssea and people learn how to play the game properly? Who knows, it's just too hard for some people after 2 years of handholding.

I never get tired of people saying Abyssea = hand holding. Nor will I understand the anti-Abyssea crowd.

I will never understand that backwards logic, no matter how hard I try.

Abyssea does not equal hand holding. What Abyssea did was make the game fun and accessible for the majority of the players. It removed the epic time sink the game had become and enabled everyone to work in smaller groups. Smaller groups are easier to manage and people can get things done faster.

18 man alliances are cool in theory, but horrible in application. It always takes forever to get people together and then controlling 18 people is a pain like you wouldn't believe. You really have to take a militaristic approach to those sort of events in certain cases.

Quite frankly, I pay to play this game not wait for 18 people to gather, or camp out in DA waiting for Faffy/Niddhog to spawn- the list is endless and by now we've all heard it.
Most importantly, I pay to have fun.

If anything, SE should be exploring what worked with Abyssea and implementing it throughout newer content as well as older content.

[Luvbunny]

Totally agree with your point of view!! Awesome observation btw on how amazing Abyssea content is. For me it is hands down the best content for FFXI and a fitting swan song, until they realize how shitty FF14 at launch, and now they have to do a lot of backpedalling and creating content that just feels like a drag with super low drop rate and you need to do 30-40 mnts shout just to get it started.

[saevel]

Some of the lower-wave items are indeed stinky ;; Looks like they backloaded all the good stuff in the final waves and final chamber.

It was done this way to delay people from farming them. Think AV / PW back at 75, except instead of making a single ridiculously hard nigh invincible NM, they make a series of ridiculously hard NM's with a nigh impossible time limit. The fact that people are even discussing having one SMN per NM to get a clear is enough to prove the previous point. Legion is a carrot for the EGLS's who want "something" to accomplish. They can keep throwing themselves against the brick wall until a future time when SE decides to allow you to win.