Legion still sucks.

[Luvbunny]

So basically they are trying to buy time, will not do anything till content is completely abandoned. I mean who in their right mind creating content that is shun by the majority of the players. As developers, your goal is to create contents that are embraced by all of your current subscribers regardless of their skills or gears. Oh right, we are talking about a different group here... I forgot that the good one is migrated to FF14.

[MarkovChain]

startegies ? Lol it's perfect defense. Can the devs answer us as to wether they are expecting us to clear this with perfect defense ?



Also yes the problem the devs are aknowleging only now have been pointed out right when it was first released on the test server, so we lost 6 months ? The lack of reward were mentionned one weak after release.

[Cowardlybabooon]

Tell us what drops so that you we have an incentive. I triple dog dare you.

[Alhanelem]

Embrava + Perfect Defense + Zerg with a sprinkling of Chainspell stun is not a strategy and that's the only thing that anyone has found that works. You can't have any other viable strats when you need to kill something with instant KO AoEs and 100k hp in less than 3 minutes.

Now, I'm totally with you on Legion being unnecessarily difficult, but during the test event, our group never got hit by anything so strong it was essentially instant KO (We did the 3kings battle with a mostly random group and reached the 2nd wave).

[Zirael]

[..] Not to mention that the drop rates for Arise and Meteor are higher than the Provenance Watcher battle.

This is not correct.
Provenance: You shout for 17 other people (or gather together with your linkshell) and go kill dragon. Arise/Meteor drops (or not)
Legion: You shout for 17 (or 35, hahaha) other people (or gather together with your linkshell) and go fight Legion monsters. You wipe; if you are good, you wipe at or just after second wave.
Rinse and repat.

Guess who's going to see Arise/Meteor in their lot pool sooner/more often.

[Sparthos]

Now, I'm totally with you on Legion being unnecessarily difficult, but during the test event, our group never got hit by anything so strong it was essentially instant KO (We did the 3kings battle with a mostly random group and reached the 2nd wave).

How long did you take to reach the second wave? Timing is the problem with Legion and when you have 6 more mobs to go and take 15-20mins to clear 3HNMs the only strategy really is to mindlessly rush in damage frantically trying to beat the clock. You have no time to absorb the content or explore turtling HNMs because you will time out, lose your gil and waste everyones time.

Mired Mantis among others (like Iron Giant and Harpeia) can oneshot you and melee rounds from Legion mobs are no joke. With little recourse other than pressing forth the event caters itself to a fast-paced climate few jobs can survive in. Lets face it, FFXI is not a fast paced MMO and many of the jobs were built around slow-paced gameplay.

I know the community reps are just telling us what the devs think but I'm not buying the strategy argument when you have 9 mobs to clear in 30mins. You barely have enough time to formulate a strategy nevermind execute one with the time given.

[Byrth]

Looking at the current situation in-game for Legion we understand that it is difficult to gather participants and the content itself is quite challenging.

Actually, the impression I have is that the content itself isn't very difficult. You need the right jobs using the right abilities/weapons at the right times, and other than that there is very little "difficulty" involved in that your win/loss ratio won't really be determined by player skill.

Regarding the rewards, we feel it is a bit early to judge whether they are sufficient or not for this content. As progress is made in Legion more and more equipment will be accessible for exchange through Legion points and there are also a wide variety of special new weapons that are only obtainable within Legion. Not to mention that the drop rates for Arise and Meteor are higher than the Provenance Watcher battle.

I can save you some time. If you were attempting to make an event that's accessible or desired by the majority of the game population, you failed and need to introduce better rewards. Very few people that are not currently in large LSs want to return to them just so they can do Legion, considering the rewards are so useless/mediocre. There also appears to be some misunderstanding here, because Arise and Meteor are both fairly mediocre rewards. The Pulse weapons are generally worse than 99 Relic/Mythic/Empyreans. If you were aiming to put some big incentive in the event, you missed it. There are some minor upgrades to situational mage gear and abjurations / abjuration augmentation items.

Speaking of abjurations, I currently have a near-monopoly on Foreboding abjuration hexed items on Lakshmi. I sell something like three per week (synth something like 10), and I have to date sold 0 pieces of Hexed gear that use Legion Abjurations. That is how popular the event is. I'm about to become tier 1 on Hexed Nails (quite possibly the first person across servers) and I'm not even sure I should make them. I'm almost entirely certain that I should not be bothering to skill Alchemy, but I'm bored and don't want another special weapon.

[Halbert]

It's starting to smell like an AV excuse/hint in here.

[Septimus]

Hey everyone,

Looking at the current situation in-game for Legion we understand that it is difficult to gather participants and the content itself is quite challenging.

Regarding the rewards, we feel it is a bit early to judge whether they are sufficient or not for this content. As progress is made in Legion more and more equipment will be accessible for exchange through Legion points and there are also a wide variety of special new weapons that are only obtainable within Legion. Not to mention that the drop rates for Arise and Meteor are higher than the Provenance Watcher battle.

We will continue to monitor the situation, but we would ultimately like to see players progress through this content a bit by forming good strategies before we do anything with the reward system.

The truth of the matter is that FFXI does not have nearly as many people as it used to. Having large-scale events is no longer feasible this late in the game's life. Not to mention that going from personal pools that make content pick-up friendly to one shared loot pool for 18-36 people does not make it very appealing to people trying to build groups.

As for the drops, did we miss any? Even this list (which is everything from the March update for which was not otherwise accounted), a few pieces are nice, some are situational, and the rest vary between not very good to outright inferior to gear that is widely available. Meteor and Arise having a better drop rate than in Provenance is nice and all, but doubling or tripling a rate that is terribad is still fairly terribad. (By the way, make sure to congratulate the Dev team on making sure to hold up their promise that not every WHM would have Arise, they overshot their expectations.)

The best strategy for this content is for us to just ignore Legion until the Dev team realizes this isn't a CoP-era game anymore and try to move it to something that reflects the current status of the game.

[wish12oz]

As for the drops, did we miss any?

I love how the DEVs try to say the drops are good, like we have no idea what the drops are. Does this event secretly drop defending rings and cursed breastplate -1s or something?