will we ever get new jobs? Comunity rep response please ;_;

[Alhanelem]

My thoughts... on jobs...(link) Yeah, I had to throw this in here, since I want more jobs like... (and for quick reference, links to each section to follow)
6 New Jobs (5 full job concept documents, but I didn't make a full post for Geomancer yet, and a seventh one is an old job given a new twist)
Chemist (Concept / JA pt1 / JA pt2, Traits, Merits & gear / Ingredients / Mix List pt1, pt2)
Engineer (Concept / JA pt1 / JA pt2 / JA pt3 / JA pt4 / Traits, Merits & gear)
Judgemaster (Concept / Job Abilities / Judgments / Penalties / Approvals / Prohibitions / Traits, Merits & gear)
Mimic (Concept / Job Abilities / Traits, Merits & gear)
Jikuu Sage (Concept / Spells pt1 / Spells pt2 / Job Abilities / Traits, Merits, gear, joke)

Yeah, they have a hard enough keeping the current jobs working, but some of you have to admit at least one of these ideas would be fun if added to the game. They're not just re-hashes of existing jobs and could have significant impacts on the strategies employed by groups.

I suppose it might be fun to play the job-making game, but I hope i don't have to tell you what a colossal amount of time you wasted coming up with all that.

[Llana_Virren]

I suppose it might be fun to play the job-making game, but I hope i don't have to tell you what a colossal amount of time you wasted coming up with all that.

Not a troll, are you?

I do appreciate your meaningful (read: meaningless) contribution to this thread by insulting a player who felt passionately enough about a topic to apply a thorough and detailed analysis on what a potential new job could be and how it would work.

Meanwhile, you trol... I mean, "suggest" gymnast, and contend that spells and abilities from previous FFs would "never work" ....

While you've successfully pulled me into replying (again) to your useless posts, I'm still not giving you credit for any skillups on Troll Magic Skill, sorry.

[Iakothm]

i like the Idea of a Juggler from FFTA. http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/J...actics_Advance)

[Alhanelem]

Not a troll, are you?

Yes, I'm not a troll. You, on the other hand, who took the time to take the exact same action you are protesting against, are. Practice what you preach.

I mean, "suggest" gymnast, and contend that spells and abilities from previous FFs would "never work" ....

I didn't suggest or even bring up "gymnast." Check who actually posted what before flaming.

Describing how I feel about time mage and how some of its abilities are either redundant, don't make sense in an MMO, or whatever is not trolling. It sounds like you don't even know what trolling really means.

My comment, which you quoted to accuse me of trolling, while blunt was not intended to be inflammatory. Making up jobs can be a fun activity, I was merely trying to get at the fact that making up jobs and taking the effort so seriously isn't going to get your job idea into the game. We can't even get bug fixes passed by the devs, much less new jobs... In other words, it IS a waste of time. Then again, so are most other topics here.

Naturally, if you ignore him, he disappears.

For someone who acts as if he knows trolling so well, and for someone who gives so much advice on it, you're doing a remarkably bad job at following your own advice. If ignoring me is supposed to make me disappear, why aren't you ignoring me?

[Ophannus]

Even adding 1 new job means they have to go back and add:
New AF Quests
Allow porter moogle to store it
Implement new AF+1 materials including graphics, name, flavor text.
Add AF2 to old Dynamises/CoP Dynamis
Add AF2+2 at Magian Moogles
Make new Empyrean Armor in Abyssea including either adding seals to old NMs or making new NMs.
Adding seals to various quests/Dom Ops.
Adding dialogue to every quest in the game that references [Your Character's Job]
Various quests which give rewards based on the current job
Adding the new job to old gear while maintaining balance
New JA animations.
New emote quest at Green Magian Moogle.
New COR roll for the job.
New Ballista title for the job specific Chevron.
Revamping and resizing the job change menu in the mog house
Resizing the 'Job Level' menu to accommodate new jobs.
Adding new Testimonies and G5 quests.


These are just a few of the things it takes to create a new job, and this isn't even accounting for all the time spent balancing its abilities and spells and seeing if it fills an unfilled niche that doesn't detract much from current jobs.

[Siviard]

@ AyinDygra - I'd love to see those concepts and offer my own input on them, if you don't mind of course.

@ Tahngarthor of Shiva - OK dude....I'm on the same server as you, and I even chit-chat with you from time to time on Shiva. I've never been mean to you at all, but in all honesty, just stop flappin' yer yap in every freaking thread on this forum. Of the nearly 4,000 posts you've made on this forum (find something better to do much?) I'd wager to guess about 3,000 of them either contain the words "NO" or "WASTE OF TIME" or "CAN'T BE DONE" or just general negativity towards people who offer what could potentially be terrific suggestions to the game. SO SHUT THAT GALKAN YAP OF YOURS, for the love of all that is good and holy. GEEZ.....

*NINJA EDIT* - Considering the fact I even logged on here to post in response to Tahngarthor aka Alhanelem, would seem to make you (Alhanelem) the official forum troll, sir.

[AyinDygra]

@ AyinDygra - I'd love to see those concepts and offer my own input on them, if you don't mind of course.

Hey, I made a thread just for people to read the ideas, comment on them, and potentially like them. (it was just a huge thread, and people may feel they can't respond to a single idea in the thread without reading it all... guess I should have split it up into multiple threads... but I wanted it all kept together as a cohesive whole, tied to the expansion storyline to help explain how the jobs fit into FFXI. So, have at it, I'd like to see what people think about them.

And as I posted later in that thread (bottom of page 2):

I agree with that assessment of what will likely happen, as I posted in my general discussion post introducing this megapost:
"I'm fully aware that this is a ton of text and most of it likely won't get translated and presented to the developers unless there is enough positive feedback for the ideas presented. I can only hope the people who do translate this sort of thing like the ideas enough to translate it all because they want to see it happen as much as me!"

I just had to get it all off my chest, since it had been swirling around in my head for months.

[Alhanelem]

@ AyinDygra - I'd love to see those concepts and offer my own input on them, if you don't mind of course.

@ Tahngarthor of Shiva - OK dude....I'm on the same server as you, and I even chit-chat with you from time to time on Shiva. I've never been mean to you at all, but in all honesty, just stop flappin' yer yap in every freaking thread on this forum. Of the nearly 4,000 posts you've made on this forum (find something better to do much?) I'd wager to guess about 3,000 of them either contain the words "NO" or "WASTE OF TIME" or "CAN'T BE DONE" or just general negativity towards people who offer what could potentially be terrific suggestions to the game. SO SHUT THAT GALKAN YAP OF YOURS, for the love of all that is good and holy. GEEZ.....

*NINJA EDIT* - Considering the fact I even logged on here to post in response to Tahngarthor aka Alhanelem, would seem to make you (Alhanelem) the official forum troll, sir.

If you think someone is a troll, it would stand to reason that you should be able to restrain yourself from posting a response to them. Of course, I couldn't do that here, so one could argue you are trolling as well.

I'd wager to guess about 3,000 of them either contain the words "NO" or "WASTE OF TIME" or "CAN'T BE DONE"

That couldn't be further from the truth.

You see, the way I see it is that I post a thought on a matter, someone attacks that thought, and from that point on I'm forced into defensive mode, attempting to keep my position strong. You can't troll when you're defending. If anything, when you're defending, it means you're BEING trolled. I suppose you could argue both sides are trolling each other- but then, it's really just an argument.

.... Here I am, defending myself again.

[Divinius]

Honestly, if they added new jobs at this point, I'd probably just quit the game entirely.

With the current state of the game, and its desperate need for attention in so many other areas (which it's not getting), if the devs actually spent the colossal amount of time it would take to try to add new jobs this late in the game (in lieu of fixing the myriad of other things that are far more important), it would really prove how little they care about trying to actually make the game fun again.

[Elexia]

They can't handle the 20 jobs that are in the game now. Why would you want to make that worse?

They can. You, the players, can't.