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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring View Post
    the comments about pld being obsolete really only apply to Abyssea, they still seem to function just fine on the new 90-ish mobs outside. The big problem is that while other jobs all got huge atma boosts all of the paladin atmas seem to address survivability without addressing enmity. Either give pld an atma that puts their hate threshold through the roof (and that would be undesireable for anyone in a non-traditional meat shield build) or put some enmity down on the DD atmas; many of the casting atma builds seem to include a bit already. Give pld a JA that is an AoE Accomplice type thing, something! Paladin was clearly built with 1 major purpose, to blood tank, and the job has not been redefined for a different role. Make damage resisted off the max a mob could do cause a hate spike (i.e. your def being used will trigger hate). there's alot of ways to go that SE could explore.
    A Paladin with Apoc, RR, and GH atmas using Chant du Cynge will cap hate without issue. It's not like VIT atmas are doing jack anyways =/

    Edit: For Rani or Raja, I wouldn't bring an alliance anyways. I mean, I suppose if people need the win they can sit on the sidelines, but that's not really counting towards the total number of people. Mnk, War, Nin, Whm, Brd, maybe a second Whm for safety can handle both mobs while proc'ing both Red and Blue and not having much trouble. If I wanted to be extra super careful I could just have either the Nin or War stand out of AoE range in case someone got ganked. Less is more, and it seems we agree on this, but there's really no point adding random DDs into the alli in the first place. Either they're leeching the win, which is fine, or they're fighting; middle ground there just makes things more complicated.

    Personally I don't bother waiting for any particular person to build hate, since any DD I know is more than capable of handling themselves if they take hate (and since we'll all cap it anyways it will happen). The only thing that bothers me is this "DDs are squishy and die if the mob looks at them so DO NOT DO DAMAGE OR YOU WILL TAKE HATE AND MAKE US WIPE" sort of mentality I've been seeing all over the place. Heck, people in the Haste thread mentioned being unable to use the proper sub on their jobs because their linkshells will scream at them if they deal any damage. That is just plain stupid.
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    Last edited by Greatguardian; 03-18-2011 at 07:12 AM.