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  1. #31
    Player MarkovChain's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    ADL will never become "LoL" unless they adjust both his splitting and aoe's. Otherwise he can still wipe your alliance whenever his AI wants to.
    ADL is lol because of perfect defense. Way to many QQ here again. I don't really see the difference between SMN 2H and not SMN 2H. There are easy way to kill it multiple times per run with PD - for instance having mules (and not alt) coming smn for the fight. But that's not really needed as you only require 5 kills. I'm actually pretty happy that there is finally some difference between the gimps that can't kill it and those that can.

    Also nynja always spreads his bullshit in all threads on the matter even though he has been proven many times to be wrong. I do seriously think that for instance getting 5 ADl drops will be faster than upgrading a salvage body of the good old days (something that he couldn't do clearly).
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    Last edited by MarkovChain; 02-12-2012 at 06:00 PM.

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  2. #32
    Player Nynja's Avatar
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    I'm pretty sure if you brewed your Draguas because you couldnt kill it otherwise you dont have any right to call people gimps for any reason...juuuuuuuuuust sayinnnnnnnnn

    and you keep changing your story on difficulty of the fight. You're still refusing to post any proof of your paper math actually making sense.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyln View Post
    Heaven forbid we have an actually difficult monster for us to fight! I mean, a fight with actual challenge. Oh noes!
    Except ... its not a challenge at all.

    It's about as challenging as obtaining a Toci's harness.

    RNG God is your greatest enemy.
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  4. #34
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    Markovchain is pchan ffs, if he's agreeing with something you know it's fucked up.

    No one's complaining about the mob difficulty, they're complaining about the retarded upgrade system.

    They made it so you have to compete against other relic holders instead of benefiting by teaming up, like every other relic trial in existence. If we had any benefit whatsoever to teaming up, this trial wouldn't be so bad. Now every pickup relic holder is competition for the drop. So you either need to have a large LS that's willing to waster their personal dynamis time to help you with JUST your upgrade, or you are forced to buy it for obscene gil after said lses get done gearing their leaders.

    Mythic 99 trials are a joke compared to 99 Relic trials, as is 99 emp.
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  5. #35
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    It would be even more retarded if it was based on kills. First it wouldn't be 5 kills but prob like 50-100 kills. Once people kill their 100th then how would a new relic holder even begin to do their trial. 5 kills per relic is a joke. People are just complaining because they are simply unable to kill ADL. That isn't SE's fault but the solo bsts or non LS'd people.

    A large LS doesn't just do ADL just for you, they do it for everyone in the LS. Shouldn't be as concerned with your personal wealth and gains as the benefit to the whole. I bet majority of you posters have never even attempted nor killed ADL.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by macross View Post
    People are just complaining because they are simply unable to kill ADL.
    No it has nothing to do with that. It has to do with the fact that 12-17 other people are being raped of 7 days their dynamis time per relic to upgrade. If this fight had no reliance on 2hr's and ADL didnt have a magical "FK YOU" instakill button no matter what you do, and actually let you kill 2-3 in 1 run...no one would really care.

    How do you kill multiple of something in a 2 hour period when the fight MANDATES the usage of 2 hour abilities?


    You know, you've been preaching the whole "you dont have a LS, your LS sucks, etc etc"...if your LS is so willing to kill ADL every day, how come you cant get your LS to kill rex/alima all day every day?
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  7. #37
    Player MarkovChain's Avatar
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    Nynja you and BG are the only ones thinking that ADL requires a full alliance of 18 to be killed. It literally melts like ice in fire, YOU clearly never fought it.

    Secondly the reason you can't have your LS kill VNM everyday is simple. I'll be using your argument. Why would you steal people of their every day 2H of dynamis ? Oh look ! Also their drop is complete garbage. The athos set is not even good for melee rdm. Ogier doesn't look like it's some credible gear. Why would you steal your LS time for mostly garbage drops ? Let the pinks farm the crap and supply us with cheap riftcinder already and be clever and allow the great players to max their weapons. I mean what's better ? The best weapon in the game or subpar gear that maybe sometimes beats something already existing ? Dynamis go.

    Dude I'm going to post a video soon to prove you your gimpness when I'm done with with empy and other stuff. Just shut up. I'm going to go even farther than what I claimed. I claim that a pimp out party of 6 players will destroy ADL to less than 25% before it splits , and that a decent ally of 10+ people is necessarily putting the NM at ~5% when it splits, making it essentially a joke barring dynamis implosion.

    PS ; the stoneskin thing is bullshit
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    Last edited by MarkovChain; 02-13-2012 at 02:20 AM.

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  8. #38
    Player Nynja's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Dude I'm going to post a video
    only took you two weeks...how many times in that 2 week time frame did you wind up wiping to stuff? lol
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  9. #39
    Player MarkovChain's Avatar
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    Can you post a video of you killing ADL ? Nope, and everyone knows why. I'm in need of gil and various crap right now and will probably be touching Nyzulz like 99% of the server.
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    My LS has attempted ADL, everything goes pretty smooth until 1 or 2 things occur: Oblivion smash gets off doing a lovely 1400~2k dmg (based on job type) or clones appear. Clones tend to mimic in TP gain using moves simultaneously which can totally destroy the alliance between both attacks if they end up being AOE since not only are the AOE Moderate to extreme damage one of them can cause instant death while ignoring shadows, so I think people have a rather relevant reason to complain about this trial.

    At least with Rex/Alima you get procs/temps to help you out on that difficult fights making them much easier by far. Unless the AOE changes they are making significantly reduces damage others take or they somehow add additional items to use during the fight ADL is more or less a hit or miss fight that you most likely will get 0-2 done per day.

    I wouldn't go as far as to say ADL at 99 is as difficult as AV was at 75, but it is not nearly as easy as PW at 99 or rex/alima. Not to mention the amount of times per day you can do the fights in comparison. It is a valid complaint.
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