Double attack vs haste

[Mojo]

You didn't lose that much damage per hit. You're either lieing, have a poor and selective memory, or did not have an adequate sample size.

You can make crap up for the sake of a discussion on the internet, but you're not going to win anybody over here. You're just going to make yourself look stupid.

[Cream_Soda]

Well, about 13 days, 4/5 hours a day, 16 minute respawn, so yeah, a lot of Yag's dead, people tried to tell me DA is good before, it was actually the same people that told me att is better than str lol.

Test the graphs and the math, 80% is just theory, because SE haven't actually released any of the math the game actually uses, the only math we have confirmed, is the math taken from reverse-engineering the game, or in otherwords, hacking.

80% is certainly not a theory. It has been tested and proven, various times, lol.

[Cream_Soda]

You didn't lose that much damage per hit. You're either lieing, have a poor and selective memory, or did not have an adequate sample size.

You can make crap up for the sake of a discussion on the internet, but you're not going to win anybody over here. You're just going to make yourself look stupid.

Also, this.

[Musahashi]

Exactly why I'm saying the math on fSTR is just theory, and can't possibly be correct. Otherwise, while fighting Yagudo Assasins in Castle Oztroja, swapping out STR+5 for my guard earring wouldn't have made any difference to damage dealt to level 70~ish mob, but it did, extensively.

[Nepharite]

Exactly why I'm saying the math on fSTR is just theory, and can't possibly be correct. Otherwise, while fighting Yagudo Assasins in Castle Oztroja, swapping out STR+5 for my guard earring wouldn't have made any difference to damage dealt to level 70~ish mob, but it did, extensively.

No it isn't theory, it is correct. Its been proven hundreds of times.

I'm astounded how people cannot understand simple game mechanics after the game has been out this long...

[Cream_Soda]

Exactly why I'm saying the math on fSTR is just theory, and can't possibly be correct. Otherwise, while fighting Yagudo Assasins in Castle Oztroja, swapping out STR+5 for my guard earring wouldn't have made any difference to damage dealt to level 70~ish mob, but it did, extensively.

No, it didn't. Again, you're pulling it out of your rear. You have absolutely 0 data to back it up and you know nothing of game mechanics.

[Musahashi]

80% is certainly not a theory. It has been tested and proven, various times, lol.

By who? Who came up with these equations? Anyone you know? Have you seen the code for yourself?

As for damage lost, look long term, DA isn't going to make up that damage lost, and therefore you deal less DoT. I think a few hundred Yagudo's are fair enough for a good test. And why would I make anything up? I honestly don't care who you think is stupid, but blindly following untested theories, and ideas from wikipedia aren't making you shine either lol.

Believe what you want, replace STR and Haste gear if you like, I won't be as previously mentioned. Because at the end of the day, there are many theories on dmg output floating around, to follow them blindly puts you in the same boat as everyone who once thought the world was flat.

[Musahashi]

Alot of people seem to be backing up the fSTR theory...

If you believe in this theory, explain to me how going from 82 STR to 77 STR can result in a loss of 40~50 DMG while fighting Yagudo Assassins in Castle Oztroja. Go.

[Nepharite]

By who? Who came up with these equations? Anyone you know? Have you seen the code for yourself?

As for damage lost, look long term, DA isn't going to make up that damage lost, and therefore you deal less DoT. I think a few hundred Yagudo's are fair enough for a good test. And why would I make anything up? I honestly don't care who you think is stupid, but blindly following untested theories, and ideas from wikipedia aren't making you shine either lol.

Believe what you want, replace STR and Haste gear if you like, I won't be as previously mentioned. Because at the end of the day, there are many theories on dmg output floating around, to follow them blindly puts you in the same boat as everyone who once thought the world was flat.

haha, I hope your just trolling.
Anyways, I'm done for the day, have fun with your str thing, hope it works out for you.
To everyone else Musahashi is an example of what not to do. 7 years of doing it wrong.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Alot of people seem to be backing up the fSTR theory...

If you believe in this theory, explain to me how going from 82 STR to 77 STR can result in a loss of 40~50 DMG while fighting Yagudo Assassins in Castle Oztroja. Go.

Not even the worst DDs in the game would experience a loss that huge from losing 5 str, calling BS on this/you didn't do a proper test and were eyeballing, which you already admitted you were.