Double attack vs haste

[Musahashi]

Well, about 13 days, 4/5 hours a day, 16 minute respawn, so yeah, a lot of Yag's dead, people tried to tell me DA is good before, it was actually the same people that told me att is better than str lol.

Test the graphs and the math, 80% is just theory, because SE haven't actually released any of the math the game actually uses, the only math we have confirmed, is the math taken from reverse-engineering the game, or in otherwords, hacking.

[Nepharite]

Well, about 13 days, 4/5 hours a day, 16 minute respawn, so yeah, a lot of Yag's dead, people tried to tell me DA is good before, it was actually the same people that told me att is better than str lol.

Test the graphs and the math, 80% is just theory, because SE haven't actually released any of the math the game actually uses, the only math we have confirmed, is the math taken from reverse-engineering the game, or in otherwords, hacking.

I would like to see your tp set.

[Musahashi]

Alot of people seem to be backing up the fSTR theory...

If you believe in this theory, explain to me how going from 82 STR to 77 STR can result in a loss of 40~50 DMG while fighting Yagudo Assassins in Castle Oztroja. Go.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Alot of people seem to be backing up the fSTR theory...

If you believe in this theory, explain to me how going from 82 STR to 77 STR can result in a loss of 40~50 DMG while fighting Yagudo Assassins in Castle Oztroja. Go.

Not even the worst DDs in the game would experience a loss that huge from losing 5 str, calling BS on this/you didn't do a proper test and were eyeballing, which you already admitted you were.

[Cream_Soda]

Alot of people seem to be backing up the fSTR theory...

If you believe in this theory, explain to me how going from 82 STR to 77 STR can result in a loss of 40~50 DMG while fighting Yagudo Assassins in Castle Oztroja. Go.

Because you're eyeballing your results and are misaccurately measuring your damage. Again, as stated in my previous post. Give me an exact average before 5 str and an exact average after 5 str. If you can't do that, your testing means nothing.

[Musahashi]

Because you're eyeballing your results and are misaccurately measuring your damage. Again, as stated in my previous post. Give me an exact average before 5 str and an exact average after 5 str. If you can't do that, your testing means nothing.

Like I said, I don't use 3rd party software to log my results, and I'm not one to write thesis on game math, so taking any time to write down 1000's of hits, not for me, but you may if you like.

And yes, the haste math has been confirmed, it was first offered to us by the creators of windower (illegally), and tested after by hundreds of people, but nobody knows where the math on fSTR came from, nobody has tested it extensively, and there is no possible way that the limitations can be correct if I lose any DMG dealt on a mob 20 levels lower than me, and with only losing 5 STR.

So I'm not telling you to do anything/believe anything I write, I'm telling you to go test it for yourself, because right now, your telling me things that you haven't tested either, and the math equations have probably been drafted by trolls, and since hacking isn't really legal, I'm not willing to reverse-engineer the game just to prove you wrong.

In my opinion, getting out into an area, killing a few hundred mobs, or maybe less gives me a very accurate idea of what is good and bad for my mnk. I would much rather do things that way, rather than read and follow an untested theory just because the equations are complex enough to believe.

[Greatguardian]

Like I said, I don't use 3rd party software to log my results, and I'm not one to write thesis on game math, so taking any time to write down 1000's of hits, not for me, but you may if you like.

And yes, the haste math has been confirmed, it was first offered to us by the creators of windower (illegally), and tested after by hundreds of people, but nobody knows where the math on fSTR came from, nobody has tested it extensively, and there is no possible way that the limitations can be correct if I lose any DMG dealt on a mob 20 levels lower than me, and with only losing 5 STR.

So I'm not telling you to do anything/believe anything I write, I'm telling you to go test it for yourself, because right now, your telling me things that you haven't tested either, and the math equations have probably been drafted by trolls, and since hacking isn't really legal, I'm not willing to reverse-engineer the game just to prove you wrong.

In my opinion, getting out into an area, killing a few hundred mobs, or maybe less gives me a very accurate idea of what is good and bad for my mnk. I would much rather do things that way, rather than read and follow an untested theory just because the equations are complex enough to believe.

There is where you went wrong, and where you lost ... no, you can't lose credibility you don't have.

[Cream_Soda]

So I'm not telling you to do anything/believe anything I write, I'm telling you to go test it for yourself, because right now, your telling me things that you haven't tested either,

I'm pretty sure I said quite the opposite, actually. I didn't go make the formulas, but I have gone out and confirmed them to be correct with my own testing.

I would much rather do things that way, rather than read and follow an untested theory just because the equations are complex enough to believe.

been tested many times, sorry.

[Cream_Soda]

Well, about 13 days, 4/5 hours a day, 16 minute respawn, so yeah, a lot of Yag's dead, people tried to tell me DA is good before, it was actually the same people that told me att is better than str lol.

Test the graphs and the math, 80% is just theory, because SE haven't actually released any of the math the game actually uses, the only math we have confirmed, is the math taken from reverse-engineering the game, or in otherwords, hacking.

80% is certainly not a theory. It has been tested and proven, various times, lol.

[Musahashi]

80% is certainly not a theory. It has been tested and proven, various times, lol.

By who? Who came up with these equations? Anyone you know? Have you seen the code for yourself?

As for damage lost, look long term, DA isn't going to make up that damage lost, and therefore you deal less DoT. I think a few hundred Yagudo's are fair enough for a good test. And why would I make anything up? I honestly don't care who you think is stupid, but blindly following untested theories, and ideas from wikipedia aren't making you shine either lol.

Believe what you want, replace STR and Haste gear if you like, I won't be as previously mentioned. Because at the end of the day, there are many theories on dmg output floating around, to follow them blindly puts you in the same boat as everyone who once thought the world was flat.