To Those Opting to Play 'One Player Mode'...

[Rezeak]

Why you even making this thread if someone is really being offensive call a gm and they will act if they are really harrishing you or just /blacklisting them.

As for soloer or groups stealing mob this is an mmo and claiming and keeping mobs claimed is part of the game the fact people can steal your stuff may be offensive to you when really it's just them playing the game (while yea it's not nice) and if you have a issue w/ that then complain to SE cause they can easily make it so you can't lose claim and if ya wipe a mob depops.

[Urteil]

When people start soloing in my way in Dynamis, we run them out of the area by claiming the mobs as a group, depriving of them of the ability to commit their heinous crime.

See I'm working with others forming an incredible story as the OP intended.

(*'-')

[Psxpert2011]

**Strolls through the thread with all the bright lights.**

"Hey guys, what going on!? Is this another general discussion about 'Bst player ethics'??"

BST POWER!!!! It make an awesome sub-job for Mnk, imagine it in it's full glory! ^o^

[Oscar71]

When people start soloing in my way in Dynamis, we run them out of the area by claiming the mobs as a group, depriving of them of the ability to commit their heinous crime.

See I'm working with others forming an incredible story as the OP intended.

(*'-')

Oh Urteil, you make my days sometimes. Anyways, aside from combing through and through the mounting garbage, I agree with the OP on this. I like to solo where I can either on DNC or SMN and being nice about it as well. A "soloer" or a "Dbox-er" not being nice or just simply ignoring you is bait to just have fun with them and mess up their play time. Yes, yes, so little to do and so much time or is it so little time and so much to do..I forget.

A player who is "skilled" to play a job that has an auto attack sheep on it and just stands there healing it should go play Pokemon, leave FFXI and enjoy your pet battles if he/she wishes to be a prick to the MMO gaming environment. I have met many helpful and nice "soloistas" and shitty "imgonnaberawrandkillthismobextraslow" players. The shitty ones should leave and pick up a copy of the aforementioned game. If you like solo and think you can get stuff done alone, great! Just stop being asses because I'm not when I solo.

(^.^)V

[Byrth]

Agree'd this is very passive-agressive, about as much as adding "He probably got camped on in Dynamis or something." in the following line of your post. lol...

I don't really understand what you're saying here. You appear to be agreeing with both parts of my first paragraph, but it could also be your sarcasm translating very poorly through text.

You expanded what I was saying. I should have been even more general and included "Soloers of all kinds".

I find the multi-boxers particularly interesting because they go to such great lengths to be uncooperative and antisocial. Single soloers are easier to deal with on two fronts:
* You're on equal footing and if they're dumb enough to try to move in then they are usually dumb enough to "over power". When someone is multi-boxing you don't have that same luxury. (I don't know what you mean here, so I can't clarify it for you)
* Solo soloers also tend to be more apt to team up, where multi-boxers come fully equipped and don't generally feel the need to be diplomatic.

I think this is what you meant, maybe. I teamed up with a JP dragoon doing XP trials in Tav on my last run there. She got about 15k XP.

Though ironically, I believe you are a proponent of "If it's yellow, it's fair game" correct? So what good does a seacom or "claiming a camp" really do in your eyes when there's unclaimed mobs? Maybe the soloer is happy pulling three mobs, and you're reading too much into it because they're "breaking your rhythm"; you're not breaking thiers'. Did you bother to ask if they were looking for an item specifically? Maybe offer what they're looking for they go kill something else? (We both know those are loaded questions right?)

There are 10 Dynamis zones and I go at ~8PM GMT to the only zone that has only one viable DC monster camp. Furthermore, I do it because they aren't generally contested monsters (Clusters blow you up, Leeches have a lot of HP and high defense/Acid Mist). If someone enters on top of me, it is their fault and we are both screwed unless one of us yields and does EPs (assuming no one is soloing them) or warps. Also, note that I said "my runs ended" above. Unless I was really low on gil, I left when it became apparent that the rest of Dynamis would be grindy no-fun competing against substantially larger groups.

I generally tend to get the majority of the pops because multi-player groups (for whatever reason) seem to show up without mages and only keep one monster claimed. You were right about "yellow is fair game." I kill faster than them and can Repose one to keep it claimed while I'm killing another. It's just not fun, though. They're idiots, but neither of us are having fun so I tend to leave.

Maybe the OP isn't just some guy who "probably got camped on in Dynamis or something." Maybe it's some guy that's also a soloer looking for civility, where there's limited mobs and yet, seemingly plenty to share.

But that'd only be a part of the argument since I was pretty intentionally "general" or vague yet specific. I can assure you there's more.

Maybe the OP was so passive aggressive and vague that it was hard to tell what the point of making the thread was. You weren't "vague yet specific." Those things are opposites. You can't be and weren't both of them at once. As evidence, I present all the replies you got.

[wish12oz]

Maybe the OP was so passive aggressive and vague that it was hard to tell what the point of making the thread was.

I agree with this, I read the OP and I have no idea what is going on. I just want to say, I enjoy killing stuff with my mules faster then other people kill the same stuff in large groups, it makes me smile a little inside when they try and call me dumb too.

[Shadowsong]

While you may have found freedom from cooperating or socializing in an Massively Multiplayer Online Video Game, we unfortunately still have to deal with you.
I cannot make threats or "pwn j00", I can only ask nicely for you to be a civil adult.

Who is "we"? Speak for yourself and hope to get support, don't strawman this

[CapriciousOne]

Generally there are main camps where people party and I think it's fairly obvious to avoid them if you're gonna solo, this is what I do if I feel like going out and soloing stuff (not on BST, mine's a Level 3), maybe even farming or skilling up. For skilling up, there's obvious camps, but you might decide to mix it up a bit and try somewhere different and discover your own camp. I'm sure a number of people out there try this.

Of course, that's not going to stop clashes 100% and sometimes you're gonna pick a spot because it's a decent spot and nobody was there to begin with. I think when they do exist you've just got to be mature about it and settle it like mature people. However, people aren't that mature. I can think of one Wajoam party where a BST was on the Calibris and instead of maturely settling it, people in our party just started shouting abuse and taunting him instead of showing any kind of manners. So it's not necessarily the soloer who's being the immature one, sadly, it was the BST who got GM'd (the leader decided to call one). It happens between parties too, people fighting over camps. It'd be nice if people were a little more mature, but actually that's the world we live in and it's not exclusive to reality either, people are dicks on the internet too.

Well the game design is part of the problem as well. I mean when you look at the break down of mob, levels, drops, and areas, especially when farming or skilling, depending on the job the options are sorely limited.

For instance, as a RDM my options kind of sucked in the high 60s and low 70s being a mage, espeically when i needed to farm pot shards or golem shards because Ro'Maeve while doable is a pain solo as a mage. So while it may make sense to avoid common camp areas it isnt always feasable because of game dynamics as well. Oh and I havent even talked about mob distribution and the common changes to it that causes problems too.

Personally I would've love to see the abyssea dynamic carried over to other areas where based on the rate a party kills, the mobs they pull get stronger proportionately to the number of people in the party. It would help alleviate some of teh problems with soloist finding respawns because parties are killing stuff too fast.

In any case there is no changing some people minds about anything let alone an entire playerbase (like the fact that RDM can melee too, lol) but expecting anyone especially soloist to just rollover and take it is complete bull.

I do find it curious the poster mentions the fact of somebody paying 2x monthly fees for additional character like it is a huge expense. I imagine they spend that amount on the cigarettes i'm sure they smoke spazing out over crap like this everyday, LOL.

Personally I always preferred to solo as much as I could because I never felt these type of games were uber hard to need a party 24/7 if one was jsut patient and actually use thier brain to form a decent strategy instead of just going in hacking and slashing. Partying is more of convenience for speed when short on time or just frustrated. In addition solo I dont have to field complaints or defend my way of playing. There is more than one way to get things done and no one way is the best way all the time. I just grew tired of the bs and just said I would do what I could solo until I got bored then just quit when done.

[Saefinn]

Well what I like about this game is if you don't have to do party stuff all the time and you are welcome to cool down and do some solo stuff. If you're soloing you don't really have to commit to anything. Obviously not every enemy can be solo'd. I think there's all sorts of solutions that could improve parts of this game, I did like that monster levels scaled in Abyssea, but I'm not entirely sure if I'd support it outside of Abyssea, though if done right it might work. Unfortunately as far as changing minds goes, a lot of people are pretty closed minded. :P