Can we have a thread that ISNT a suggestion?

[Dale]

-Cliche brooding male protagonist, check
-Spunky ditz, check
-White mage girl, check
-Chivalrous pervert, check
-Dumb tough guy with a soft side, check

Edea being married to Cid, the orphanage where EVERYONE magically and conveniently knew each other, fake presidents, they were all forced or way too convenient to be occuring. Then there are plot holes amuck, what happened to Rinoa's feelings/love for Seifer, what happened to Squalls wound at the start of disc 2 (he was impaled by a gigantic icicle, remember?) why does Seifer join Edea, even if he had a good side to him. In Dollet, and during the seed testing, he put his differences aside to fight with the group, now all of a sudden he's bad? So much of it made no sense.

The battle system was a joke! You sit there for hours on end drawing magic, summon GF, fights over. And what kind of an RPG discourages leveling? Remember back in FFI where if you didn't over level, you would have your butt handed to you on a silver platter? That added to the experience, the training regime for the next big boss, the endurance run through the dungeon, etc. FF8 was not a bad game, but still a severely flawed one.

Squall didn't stay a brooding protagonist. He is one of the only - if not the only - main character in any FF series who was actually affected by the world-changing events going on around him and matured and found the confidence to be a more well-rounded leader actually interested in the feelings of others around him.

Spunky Ditz? If you mean the girl in yellow, I didn't like her.
White mage Girl? If you are referring to Rinoa, she was hardly the typical white mage female on a game, and you could equip her with w/e magic you wanted - so if you made her a white mage, that was entirely your choice.
Chivarlous pervert? I assume you mean the cowboy guy, i didn't like him either so i'm not going to defend him.
Dumb tough guy with a soft side? If you mean zell i take offense at that. He was my favorite character, and he wasn't dumb at all. How dare you

I don't see why any of those plot twists you named were convienent. They knew each other from the orphanage, they grew up together. Once their amnesia sickness began to wear off that's how they all knew each other. I don't know what's stupid about that. They were orphans recruited into the ranks of Seed.

Rinoa's feelings for sifer most likely wore off cause she met squall. Duh I don't remember much about the icicle. It has been awhile, but i'm sure his friends probably nursed him back to health. Sifer was seduced by the power the sorcererss offered him if i remember correctly. I don't know what's stupid about that. That's what made FF8 so great. A lot of the characters were realistic, not boring goody two-shoe characters who always did the right thing.

I liked the draw magic. It gave finding new enemies a new game-play element i found quite enjoyable, and i loved how you could equip different magics to increase your stats and gain resistances to different effects. The fact monsters leveled up as you did didn't discourage me from leveling at all, in fact it encouraged me to because i could actually take me time and level without having to worry about destroying the rest of the game from a challenge perspective. You are talking to someone who actually maxed out Squall's level on Tyranasaurus Rex's in the first garden cutscene during the training exercise quistis sends you on lol

The only flaw was the bosses didnt' level up with you as well. This was a big mistake i admit - but pales in comparison with the game's numerous triumphs.

We just disagree. FF 8 was and still is one of the greatest games every created.