Dynamis: way too much junk.

[Airrick]

From one of your previous posts sounds like you have more than enough people, yet you said youre using 2 characters, any particular reason why you (and possible other members of your LS) are dual boxing considering how easy Dynamis is now? That sounds like it might be part of the problem.

[Ravenmore]

Dude making it way harder then it really needs to be. Its not that hard of a idea to work though of having one person lot all the currancy and spit it at the end. Now if he doesn't trust anyone not to run off with the currancy or people are worry about him doing it then guess what time for a few new friends.

[Yarly]

You've been doing dynamis as a full scale LS event this entire time? Maybe you're the one doing it wrong

I was going to say this, but it was already said.

OP should trim some people out of the shell.

[Damane]

Currency is why people do Dynamis though. Do you do it for exp scrolls? Do you do it for beastcoins? Do you do it for hydra corps fellow gear? No? Then why does the suggestion of removing those things from Dynamis offend you?

I was being sarcastic...

[Dreamin]

Just curious, but can you juggle 1 ball? Ok, now juggle 60. It's a matter of magnitude. YES IT'S EASY TO PASS ONE ITEM, BUT THAT'S NOTHING COMPARED TO PASSING 1 PIECE OF AF ON 2 CHARS EVERY 50 SECONDS. They'd have to use LL to do that without diminishing their ability to pay attention to what's going on, and at least one of them plays on PS2, and yet another refuses to use LL because he thinks it's cheating.

Edit: It's obvious now that you're only reading the parts you want to read. My LS --USED-- to have 40+ people in it, but now has far fewer. I don't know where you saw me saying we currently have a group of more than 2 alliances for 2012 current-day Dynamis, but the truth is, we don't have that many people.

I'm sorry like I've said, I'm still stuck on the fact this is 2012 and you're having ppl that still cannot for whatever reason to learn how to pass loot. I just cant get over that fact.

Do you know how little resources we have left from the DEV to work on this game? And you want the DEV to spread some of that resources in fixing an inability of some players who doesn't know how to pass in Dynamis? Seriously, take a step back and look at what it is that you're asking. Personally, removing all these items that you're asking for doesn't impact me since they're either stuff that I already have or never care about. But have you thought that just maybe there are people who might want some of those items (as junky as they might be to many people)?

[Yinnyth]

Dude making it way harder then it really needs to be. Its not that hard of a idea to work though of having one person lot all the currancy and spit it at the end. Now if he doesn't trust anyone not to run off with the currancy or people are worry about him doing it then guess what time for a few new friends.

Ok, so how does that person lot the currency when it never goes into the loot pool to begin with? I honestly don't care if the currency goes autosort as long as it stays in the loot pool long enough to be passed/lotted. That's how we handle it now, and everyone in LS is ok with those rules. OUR PROBLEM is less a matter of needing to lot and divide the coins fairly at the end and more a matter that stuff doesn't drop into the loot pool. I can't believe how many times I've had to explain this during the thread, but if you have 9 pieces of AF2 in the loot pool, there's only 1 space that currency can use. So if a mob drops 2 coins, one coin goes into the loot pool, one coin goes autosort without time to lot or pass it.

[Nynja]

I guess he missed my message

[Yinnyth]

I was going to say this, but it was already said.

OP should trim some people out of the shell.

Oh, now there's a good idea. Yeah, 6 people are way too many. It's so hard deciding who gets sagasinger when ADL actually drops. So I'll go tell one of those people who have been doing Dynamis under my leadership for 4 years that he can't come to runs anymore because we have too many people.

[Spiritreaver]

I read the whole thread before replying Yinnyth and please forgive me if this comes off harsher than i mean it to

I know it's annoying to read every word I write in this thread, especially since I wind up repeating myself like I'm about to right now. But I dualbox in Dynamis (usually the main WHM + BRD). We allow currency to autosort, but my LS sees it as unfair if my dualbox char (or any of the other dualbox chars) get any of the autosort currency, because that means I, IRL, have twice the chance to get currency as someone who doesn't dualbox.

Edit: I forgot to also repeat that since our loot pool is full of ra/ex stuff, it forces the currency to sort before my dualbox char has a chance to pass.

That's your problem right there, its two-fold. 1) Your group is doing autosort when it comes to currency and 2) You are running with the wrong sort of group.

When my group actual logs on to do something and it turns out to be new-dynamis, we are usually 4-6 ppl strong. We kill pretty fast and never have a problem with drops.

1-We have an assigned currency lotter. This alleviates alot of grief right there. i don't care how fast you all are killing, you still have to proc and that can take a bit on stubborn mobs; if the assigned lotter has lotted, the currency will drop to him when pool kicks the item out as long as his inv has space. After the run it should take no more that a couple min to figure total currency drop and each member's cut.

Of course when time gets low, this breaks down a bit. You will have some currency going to whoever if they dont pass. And this brings me to

2-Set up your group better. If ppl in your group don't want an item, tell them upfront they will have to pass it and if that's too much trouble they dont have to come on the run. Period. If they are gonna have issue passing currency after the 5 min mark, they dont have to come on the run. Period.

See the pattern there?

Basically, if you are in charge of the group, you need to be in charge of the group. And if your members don't agree with the way things go, they need to move on. Expecting SE to change drop systems in one zone(excuse me here if i'm wrong, but got the distinct impression that you all farm dyna-tav all the time) because you guys don't structure your group better just doesn't work. Dynamis is a lowman event now, if ppl in your group cant get that, they shouldn't be in your group to begin with.

[Yinnyth]

I was being sarcastic...

Yes, you were being sarcastic. It's kinda easy to assume you don't actually think Dynamis should be completely removed. But what was your underlying message? I'm guessing you were attempting to say that I was trying to remove too much from Dynamis. My response was that I'm not trying to cut out the things that make Dynamis unique, I'm trying to cut out the stuff in Dynamis that NO ONE wants. And so far, NO ONE has come forward to say they actually want the things I proposed should be cut, they've only come forward to say that it's a problem with my people, not a problem with the game.