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    Player tyrantsyn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
    Red mage was designed to be proficient in the ways of enfeebling magic and single-target/self enhancements. Magic spells were split so that red mages focused on single-target magic, while white mages excelled in AoE magic.

    In regards to Haste specifically, the stats surrounding the spell were created for a single target in mind, so for balance reasons we have no plans to make it possible to turn it into an AoE spell.

    Due to this, we do not have plans of allowing red mage spells to simply be changed into AoE spells.
    You know I never ask this in the other thread so I might as well ask it now. Whats the difference in balance between me casting this spell once as a aoe and casting 4 to 5 time's on single target's? Is the balance in the time it take's to actual cast it over and over again? because that's the only noticeable difference I can see.

    And with that question I ask another, If the reason haste could not be made into a AOE threw accession because of it's potency as a single target spell. Does that mean the single targeted gain spell's are more potent than the boost spell line? Because from what I understand there equal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrantsyn View Post
    You know I never ask this in the other thread so I might as well ask it now. Whats the difference in balance between me casting this spell once as a aoe and casting 4 to 5 time's on single target's? Is the balance in the time it take's to actual cast it over and over again? because that's the only noticeable difference I can see.

    And with that question I ask another, If the reason haste could not be made into a AOE threw accession because of it's potency as a single target spell. Does that mean the single targeted gain spell's are more potent than the boost spell line? Because from what I understand there equal.
    SE wouldn't know what balance was if it bit them in the ass. They throw the word around because its a trendy word in MMO's it provides the guise of actually working on shit. Case in point.

    SMN's elementals now cost less MP to keep out, but still do relatively anything of use other than Elemental Siphon, which defeats the purpose of reducing MP costs since you use it for a brief JA and that is it.

    That is SE balance for you, instead of balancing SMN's to actually be useful buffers or DD's via Ward/Blood pact timer reductions or charges, they instead target something that has absolutely zero effect on making SMN any better or worse.

    Fluff is fluff is fluff.

    Ironcially RDM has had its own experience in this. At the 75 cap SE gave us an awesome ability called composure, that extended the duration of enhancing spells, but only on ourselves. Now we can extend that bonus to others, but our spell library has been reduced (in a sense) considering the only buffs we have to cast are Refresh II and lolPhalanx II, Everything else is now available for use by other jobs via sub jobs.

    BRD can cap haste by itself for a whole party. (RDM can only give 15%) while /RDM
    BRD can give 10MP/tick refresh for a whole party (RDM can only give 6) while /RDM
    BRD can then give its other buffs as well (up to 4 AoE buffs at a time)

    BALANCE!!!!!.
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    There is no min only max. Or something like that.

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    Player ManaKing's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrantsyn View Post
    You know I never ask this in the other thread so I might as well ask it now. Whats the difference in balance between me casting this spell once as a aoe and casting 4 to 5 time's on single target's? Is the balance in the time it take's to actual cast it over and over again? because that's the only noticeable difference I can see.

    And with that question I ask another, If the reason haste could not be made into a AOE threw accession because of it's potency as a single target spell. Does that mean the single targeted gain spell's are more potent than the boost spell line? Because from what I understand there equal.
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    Yeah they are equal. Who ever has the higher Enhancing Magic gets higher Stats. I get 23 from my gain spells and 150+ from my bar spells. These are some of the few numbers that a well geared RDM shines under, but alas, we cannot give them to our friends without /subjobs. I really don't understand why RDM doesn't get anything better that it can give to another job.
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