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    Player hiko's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malamasala View Post
    You are all spoiled.

    Back in my days we had to earn our armors. And obviously if you aren't getting VW drops, you didn't earn them. Put more effort into your prayers to the gods and do something about it on your own!
    playerA: shout and gather people everyday for VW, lead the run, is unlucky with his coffer.
    playerB: answer once to playerA shout, get body in his coffer.

    now can you tell me who put more effort to earn his armor ? the one who got it, or the other one?
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  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellith View Post
    *stands around DA for 3 hours*
    *doesnt claim fafnir*
    "damn guess I didnt earn it"
    Biggest problem with this game is the randomness of equipment.

    Some people go 1/1 E Abj: body, then go 1/1 on HQ synth, then go 1/1 on +3DA +6STP

    The next guy could go 1/12 E Abj: body, then go 1/50 on HQ synth, then go 1/320 on +3DA +6STP

    One guy laid down, at most (if payed for ABJ), 25ish mil. The other payed (without buying ABJ or pop items) around half a relic.
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  3. #123
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asymptotic View Post
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    All affirmations are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense.
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    FFXI: Leviathan > Arcon
    FFXIV: Selbina > Arcon Villiers

  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    List of Futurama episodes
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  6. #126
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    This 'White' Stagger that is going to be implemented in VoidWatch will be rather interesting. They can implement a 100% drop rate and list the top 5 notable items inside the chest if a group successfully staggered 'White' on the NM. The idea of capping lights on one blow is something to look forward to...but perhaps they can go a bit further with this idea.
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  7. #127
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    Super-low drop rate and normal treasure pool distribution
    relatively high drop rate (by comparison at least) and item goes to random people.
    The real kicker is that Square decided to do both, the drops are silly rare and the loot system retarded. Double whammy!

    The thing is though, as someone above said..we are all doing VW and it's keeping us busy cheaply, so working as intended. You complain about it but you are still doing it and due to having stuff to do still paying a sub.
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  8. #128
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    Strategic bump.

    Here's an update!

    Since I posted this, I have indeed gotten my Three Faijin Boots, Of the three I could only use one, so Two Wasted. And coincidentally those two extra pairs could have gone to the two people in our linkshell that have been to every fight, and yet to see a pair.

    You see, Square Enix Incorperated, there's a fallacy in your previously stated logic of "Adding more items to the game by letting everyone have their own chest" [paraphrased].

    Because when you have someone like me, who got Three Meikira Keikogai in a row; that's not three that went into use, it's Two Wasted.

    So in reality, your new system is not actually helping and is actually just a complete annoyance. In fact it's breeding ill will and confusion on multiple fronts:

    People trying to make sense of this idiocy are trying to see patterns that don't exist.
    People are getting mad they don't get rewarded.
    People getting mad because new people ARE getting rewarded.
    People are getting mad because they can't share their good fortune.
    People are getting mad at people for getting good fortune.
    People can't enjoy their rewards because their friends still get nothing.
    People are mad because they're trapped doing these events for the people that can't seem to get a break!

    Speaking of anger... I wasn't too annoyed about the trash that comes with the low drop rate on desired gear, but recently it's become the salt on the wound. Just because of the sheer scale of the problem.

    Exhibit A:

    "Log" from the TV Cartoon Ren & Stimpy, Spümcø.


    You see that is a generational icon. It was a satire on the absurdity of the concept of receiving a log as a toy. It's a play on the "Pet Rock" phenomenon, and every generation has one.

    The problem with receiving a log is that it doesn't come off as a reward. It's an insult, almost satirical, or even sarcastic. That role should not be shared from a game to the players. When you have a reward based experience, like a game, usually the rewards match certain criteria. Receiving "gag" rewards like a log is what you get if you fail. It's the donkey behind 'Door Number 3'. In short, it is usually reserved as a punishment for poor performance.

    TO expand... Typically:

    1) The Harder something is to do, the Greater the Reward received. (This has always been FFXI's weakest point.)

    In the case of Voidwatch specifically:

    2) When a device is introduced to Enhance chances of reward, it is generally assumed to function as so.

    The 'Spectral Alignment' should noticeably affect the frequency and quality of items received. Since math, logic and perception don't seem to be your company's strong-point anymore, I'll spell it out for you:

    0% Blue x 0% Red = Jack Shit
    0% Blue x 100% Red = Jack Shit
    100% Blue x 0% Red = Log

    100% Blue x 100% Red = 1 Item of Good Quality.
    100% Blue x 250% Red = 1 Item of High Quality.
    100% Blue x 500% Red = 1 Item of Ridiculous Quality.

    500% Blue x 100% Red = 5 Items of Good Quality.

    500% Blue x 500% Red = 5 Items of Ridiculous Quality.

    Now a Log is not "Ridiculous Quality". Neither is an Insect Wing, Beetle Shell, Mythril Ore, etc... But you still see them even if you reach 525% Red(quality).

    "Ridiculous" would be 'Currently Desired Crafting Items' on the low end, things like: Flame Gems, Durium Ingots, Phrygian Ingots, etc. On the mid-level of "Ridiculous" you have High Level Scrolls, Riftsand, Silver Mirrors, and stuff like that. Into the upper levels you can get the gear.

    As the system currently stands, it appears that Red Light has no bearing on the reward at all. This might be a bug, but we've had people that do not trade cells at all receive gear and items of the same quality as someone that did, in most cases the same amount as well.

    So either your definition of Frequency is off, or your definition of Quality is.

    If you think Logs and Dirt are exceptionally valuable, maybe we could work out a deal where I pay for my account with them. I could send you an Envelope of Dirt, and some Insect Wings, and we could call it even. I could "Reward" YOUR hard work with the same crap YOU value. How does that sound?
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    Last edited by Frost; 03-05-2012 at 09:26 PM.
    If you don't understand why Haste is so important, or if you don't think it is:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/1847-Haste-and-You...-A-guide-to-the-misinformed.

  9. #129
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    I wonder what the other side of the Planar Rift looks like....

    I picture a dozen really pissed off Galkan Lumberjacks and Miners shoving Logs, Ore, and Wild Beasts into a hole trying to plug it up...
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    If you don't understand why Haste is so important, or if you don't think it is:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/1847-Haste-and-You...-A-guide-to-the-misinformed.

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    I agree with you wholeheartedly.

    Also, 11/10 for absolutely brilliantly worded posts. So true, and so funny.
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